Princesses Disney Article: Does Belle have a job?

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posted by MadameLee

I was on Youtube recently link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mx1MmY1Bb50[/url][/url] (If toi go down to the 60 replies). Someone thought Belle didn't have a job (and the triplets did) because she had enough 'free time to read and became delusional about life in 'poor provincial town' (not my words). The exactly wording of what the user a dit was "I'm wondering that Belle are doing then even those triplets have their own jobs and responsibilities. Maybe idleness made her delusional? That life can be found outside of her town? " I pointed out that in historical speaking in those times women were only suppose to be able to read cookbooks ou have recipes committed to memories and not read fairytales ou something. that could cause 'women to start getting ideas'.

Then I asked him what kind of a job that the triplets did (and a dit "lovely laddies" aka Les Miserables) . The guy replied they were getting water to either help take care of the animaux ou to transport it to their dad (if there is a dad for them) so he could do it. That the movie showed that even the triplets hd 'responsibilities' but Belle didn't.

I then a dit in my suivant commentaire that the only job I saw them 'doing' was faon, fawn over the town's jock (aka Gaston) and they had what I consider to be jasel clothing (Jasmine+Ariel) kind of costumes (not the word I want but think of words that people associated with 'witch' (female dog), someone who sleeps around a lot, etc.)hence they were rich.

It's hard for me to explain the suivant bit. The guy a dit because of the way I interpreted the triplets that I view Belle as hardworking and that the triplets would probably be at the most, daughters of a rich merchant and since they're so spoiled that the family would have been hard-pressed to support the spoiled brats. So that means that the triplets probably did have a job.

At this point another guy mentioned that getting water wasn't a job and even if it was that the triplets were taking their own sweet time to do the job. Then asked why we were talking about the triplets.

The OP a dit that we assumed Belle was working because we saw her 'feed' the animals' and that she wasn't portrayed as a plus dedicated worker then the triplets were. So that the conclusion was that we can't say that Belle was helping her father without also agreeing that the triplets would have to have responsibilities of their own and vice versa.

Then he got into the topic of the fact that he believes that Belle rejected a 'good' match (aka 'rich') in the hopes of something better. I pointed out to him that the issue here is that Gaston wouldn't allow any livres in his house except cookbooks, and except her to be up from dusk to dawn cleaning,cooking and popping bébés out (hopefully 7 sons). I can just imagine a couple of rules that Gaston puts down: "No livres except cookbooks in my house", "You must only agree with my politics", "We can only have sons, no daughters" and "If we do have daughters they have to be illerate and only agree with me ou their brothers' ou husbands' politics."

RoseOfRapunzel, mimansa and 2 others like this

TheFabulousFAN Well...no offense but, you are not really speaking English also no Belle does not have a job...except maybe to feed those chickens and um....yeah

TigerRanma I don't think she had a job. You only see her do house chores. I don't think women had jobs back then. Even the Bimbettes were probably just doing chores in their area. Reading this was a little frustrating.

MadameLee Sorry. It's just I didn't know how to get the conversation across what was happening. Could you help me edit it?

prussiaducky Interesting views :) I can see where you are coming from, but I believe she couldnt have had a true job since she had to take care of her father by running the home for him. Tiger-Ranma- Yes, women did have jobs then. Watch "Les Mis", many had jobs in textiles and maid-work. Some even ran wine shops. FabFAN- do you understand what English is? She is using a language derived from germanic and latin roots, originating a few centuries after the fall of Rome. She is using the modern context of this language. It's the only language on this Earth of the Germanic/Latin combination that is widely used (I believe Flemish is under this combo but I cannot say). I can only understand three languages, beginning to understand a fourth, and she is clearly using one among my knowledge of language. I can't see afro-asatic writings within this article, so it must be English.

prussiaducky Don't be sorry, to be honest, you cannot understand FabFAN's English half the time on this website. She insults everyone openly for no real reason. You layed your points clearly and it was beautifully written, and I can totally see where you are coming from :)

TigerRanma Oh yeah, that's true. Aww, now I'm thinking about my Princess and the Pauper computer game. Well, my answer is still no. Belle didn't look like she had a job.

MadameLee I kind of fixed it so it could be more understandable (but I didn't know where to put puncation so if someone would be so kind?).

MadameLee @prussisaducky thanks I kind of added another comment on youtube pointing out why I thought the trplets were the town lovely laddies and I will see what the guys say tommorrow.

Tygers_Eye I actually got involved with that exact same line of responses to that OP in that video. My username is snarkbait1, and I learned to regret arguing with the pig in that scenario. It didn't accomplish anything and just annoyed the pig. First of all, that guy's an idiot that doesn't understand anything about the historical context except what supports his sexist worldview: that women couldn't do anything but serve their fathers and husbands because that's just the way it was. First of all, during that time period, most people didn't have "jobs" as we understand them today. They didn't all go out to work for some shop or corporation to earn a wage/salary and then spend it on junk they didn't need, which in turn gave junk-sellers money to pay their workers. Belle lives during the pre-Industrial Revolution Europe. During the late 18th century France, most people made money off the land. Most "peasants" were serfs, or farmers that rented and worked the land owned by nobles. They paid a large share of the crops and livestock in taxes and scrounged what little they had left. They also had some specialty jobs needed to run a society, like maids, servants, merchants, shopkeepers, butchers, bakers, blacksmiths, tailors, cobblers, etc. but those were not so common compared to the overall population of serfs and landowners, I guess... Anyway, the Youtube guy's an idiot. [b]During the song "Gaston," the triplets are clearly shown serving drinks in the tavern, so they're tavern wenches. They're probably getting water in the pump outside for the tavern cook to boil later. Far from just fetching water for their daddy.[/b] Anyway, the idea that all women just stayed inside and served their daddies before moving on to serve their husbands was the ideal, but not the reality. Many women didn't marry, couldn't marry, and/or actually did work outside the home. As we see, there are no less than five women (two stout older ones and the triplets) serving drinks at the tavern, and in the castle we see many female staff. Mrs. Potts, Babette, the Wardrobe, etc. Women could work as maids, housekeepers, nurses, wet nurses, cooks, serving women (waitresses), etc. They generally couldn't get more high-paying specialty jobs on their own though (butchers, bakers, blacksmiths, etc.) which is where getting married and sharing in their husbands' profession came in handy. If they were lucky, many unmarried women actually were supported by their brothers or male cousins after their fathers died. Older unmarried women could also take up little professions like midwives, "cunning folk" (or healers presumed to be witches), wet nurses if they had a child of their own, spinsters (or women who literally spun wool for a living), nuns if they lived in a Catholic country, etc. These jobs were not very lucrative though, so they were undesirable. Not impossible to live on, and thus unmarried women were not necessarily doomed, but not ideal either. Part of the point of having kids was to have someone to look after you in your old age.

Tygers_Eye But I digress. The point is most "peasants" didn't have "jobs" as we know it as their job was tending the land, growing/raising food from it, and making enough to a) pay their taxes, b) have enough left over to eat, and c) barter sell leftovers so they could get a more balanced diet. Belle and her father are shown having chickens and goats, so it's possible they rely on the eggs, milk and cheese (and occasional meat) those animals provide. They would probably also need to sell some of it to barter/buy other things like bread and vegetables (if they don't grow their own). [b]Farming and tending to livestock is actually very taxing and time-consuming. That's why "farmer" is considered a legitimate profession and not just a hobby.[/b] Which is why I told the guy in the comments' section that it's possible [b]Belle's job IS to look after the farm. We see her feeding the animals after she turns down Gaston. I also said at another point it's possible Belle only looks after the farm so her father can spend more time tinkering with his inventions, and thus realize his dream of being a world-famous inventor.[/b] If he had to look after the farm and house himself, he'd never have time to invent. I said it's possible the only reason Belle doesn't hop on the nearest wagon out of town and follow her dream of "adventure in the great wide somewhere" is to look after her father. That is, take care of the farm and house so he can follow his dream of inventing. The guy accused Belle of just sitting around relying on her father becoming "a world-famous inventor" instead of making the changes herself, but see above. I still that she just plans to run the farm while Maurice is alive and needs her, but she doesn't plan to do so forever. She works the farm despite finding it boring to support her father's dream, probably knowing her dad won't live forever, or at least will eventually make it so big as a famous inventor that he can hire a housekeeper and thus won't need her anymore, and thus is waiting to seek adventure once she no longer has someone to look after. So, by that logic, I think it's downright responsible of her not to tie herself down with a husband she doesn't love and/or doesn't share her ideals, or have children she would also have to stay at home to support for the rest of her life. Same-age spouses and children are more needy and live way longer than elderly fathers, after all.

MadameLee I view the entire town except maybe the bookeeper. As a highschool and the triplets are like the 'cheerleaders' and Gaston is the 'school's Jock'. Don't know about Belle or the bookkeeper.

MadameLee I made a new artilce on another page about if Gaston could be a lesser nobility. Since all the clues point to it.. http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/gaston/articles/258018/title/gaston-lesser-nobility

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My Personal Rankings for Elsa

posted by WinterSpirit809

So I had an idea pop into my head and I had to write an article. So, there are so many things; looks, intelligence and personality, so I've decided to make an article for each princesses, about where they are placed on each of my rankings.

I've decided to go newest to oldest, and since when people go oldest to newest people place Anna before Elsa, I'm doing Elsa first.
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS AN OPINION ARTICLE! THIS IS NOT MEANT TO OFFEND!

Let's start with the shallowest and work our way up, shall we?

Voice Actress (Idina Menzel)- 10

Now, I'm not counting chant for this particular ranking, because...

Prince Ali Reprise Lyrics

posted by Annabethandco

Prince Ali, yes it is he
But not as toi know him
Read my lips and come to grips with reality
Yes, meet a blast from your past
Whose lies were too good to last
Say hello to your precious Prince Ali!

So Ali turns out to be merely Aladdin
Just a con, need I go on?
Take it from me
His personality flaws
Give me adequate cause
To send him packing on a one-way trip
So his prospects take a terminal dip
His assets frozen, the venue chosen
Is the ends of the earth - whoopee!
So long, ex-Prince Ali!

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Getting To Know sweetie-94

posted by sweetie-94

View from Lidingö over to Stockholm, picture taken par me

View from Lidingö over to Stockholm, picture taken by me

I've written several getting to know me articles, but I felt like it was time to write an updated article, hope you'll like it

I don't really have a good reason to why I chose my username, it just was the first one that came into my mind (but I've been on fanpop for nearly 5 years so that might explain), but 94 is the last two numbers of the an I was borned (1994) and I just thought sweetie was a lovely word

My real name is Teresa, I have no idea what it really means, but one time I got to know that it means huntress in latin. I was borned September 16th 1994 so I'm 20 years old, I'm a Virgo...

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Teenage Dreams [3 Parts fan Fic] [Part 1]

posted by nmdis

“Ariel toi need to get out of your sweet dream and see what’s happening” a voice came inside the room astonishingly. She turned and unconsciously replied “Umm…What?” Ariel gets out of her lit and walks directly towards the mirror and opens the door, she pauses for 3-5 secondes and her eyes chercher for a special hair brush.”Oh here it is” with a sweet smile Ariel say. It was silver hair brush with a beautiful rose printed on its back side, it was shiny and beautiful.

Ariel found this brush on sea rive when she went to the local plage at the age of 5 and since then she kept it...

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Why I l’amour Elsa

posted by reflection11

Crappy picture I made.

I may be in the minority, but I l’amour Elsa. Imo, she has a very complex, realistic personality. toi have to dig a little deeper into her character than most princesses. I will warn toi now, a lot of this article is assumptions and opinions Elsa haters will dislike.

Personality:
Don't kill me, but I think she has one. When she was little, she loved to play, laugh, and have fun. She was a little irresponsible (though at the beginning of the movie, before they build a snowman, she pretended each other.) but who isn't when they're, what, 7? She plays with Anna and really shows her l’amour for Anna by...

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My haut, retour au début 3 Disney Princess films

posted by zanhar1

Whilst typing my last article I came to realize that (Mulan being the exception) my favori princesses were different than my favori princess movies. That said; whilst my two favoris are Ariel and Mulan, my favori films are Beauty and the Beast, Mulan, and Snow White.

Beauty and the Beast

This movie is probably my favori Disney movie hands down. I absolutely adored the plot. I'm all for uniqueness and originality; usually in films people are cursed into animals. In Beauty and the Beast, they are all objects...that can talk. And this is all because their Prince had to work on his attitude...it...

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Opposing Woes, Part 13.

posted by avatar_tla_fan

I'm finally bringing this back!

Snow White began to walk away.

I don't want anything to do with that girl anyway.

Even as Snow White was walking away, she continued to hear the crying. In fact, it sounded louder than before.

I better go see if that girl is still upset. Snow White thought.

When she got what she thought was close to the crying, it turned into full on screaming. She didn't know what to do.

In the end, she ended up calling the police.

When the police came, Snow White led them to the screaming, but when they got close, the screaming stopped. There was no one there.

"Are toi trying...

The Power Of Friendship 2: Happily Ever After (Chapter 16)

posted by mhs1025

"Mulan, what is this all about?" Shang asked as the gang entered the hallway. "Indeed, because you're starting to worry me." John replied. "I have an idea. Why don't we throw Merida a Get Well Soon feast after she gets out of here?" Mulan answered. The guys thought for a minute. Pocahontas, on the other hand, was skeptical. "I don't know. Don't get me wrong, it's a good idea, but she may be required to continue resting." she said. "Well, yeah, but we could still pull it off." Mulan replied. "I guess that makes sense." Pocahontas stated.

"Mulan, I l’amour the idea of throwing Merida this feast,...

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Ariel icone for euny :)

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Why I l’amour Rapunzel

posted by sweetie-94

Today I'll focus on why I love Rapunzel

Today it's 3 days until my birthday and today I'll focus on my 3rd favori DP Rapunzel and why I l’amour her
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Even though Rapunzel isn't my favori DP I still l’amour her so much

I l’amour how creative she is, when she's alone in the tower she has so many activities to do like painting, baking etc.

I l’amour how unsure she is before leaving the tower, I can relate to that as I also have a hard time sometimes doing things that are hard ou challenging ou something brave, but in the end I usually end up doing them and I feel happy about...

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Opposing Woes, Part 6.

posted by avatar_tla_fan

Tiana returned home, very depressed. She didn't want to tell her mother she was fired from her job, but she would have to explain it eventually. This 'Snow White' had ruined her life, and she was very upset.

Why? Why does she hate me? What could she gain from getting me fired?

After walking near home, she saw someone in the street. She walked closer, trying to see who it was. It was Snow White.

"What are toi doing out on the street?" Tiana asked.

"Why do I need to answer that?" Snow White replied.

"Just answer me."

"Quit it. I don't have to answer anything toi say."

Tiana stared for a second.

Wow,...

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Why I l’amour Ariel

posted by sweetie-94

Today I'll focus on why I love Ariel

Today it's 4 days until my birthday and today I'll focus on my 4th favori DP Ariel and why I l’amour her
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Even though Ariel isn't in my haut, retour au début 3 favori Disney Princesses I still l’amour her very much

I l’amour how curious she is over the human world and that she collects human treasures, it shows how much she wants to be human

I l’amour that she'll do anything to become human no matter the risks, she's also very adventurous which I also l’amour about her

I l’amour how expressive she is as a human, she doesn't have a voice, but toi can see just by...

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Why I l’amour jasmin

posted by sweetie-94

Today I'll talk about why I love Jasmine

Today it's 12 days left until my birthday and that means that today I'll focus on my 12th favori DP Jasmine
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Anyway jasmin is one of my least favori Disney Princesses, but I still l’amour her

I l’amour that she doesn't want to marry someone just because he has a lot of money ou because he's a prince, she wants to marry for love

I also l’amour that she longs for freedom outside of the palace walls and how she doesn't want to be a princess

I also l’amour how adventurous she is, she wasn't afraid to go on a magic carpet ride with Aladdin, I also l’amour that she's smart, she's...

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Reviewing Songs; Tangled, Part 1!

posted by avatar_tla_fan

I thought I'd do this one next. Anyways, keep in mind that this is my opinion, and we may disagree, so respect my opinion and I'll respect yours.

Enjoy the article! :)

When Will My Life Begin?
I don't care if people say it's unmemorable, I absolutely l’amour it, and it's my favori song from the movie. I l’amour Mandy Moore's voice, and it's one of my favori Disney Princess voices. I also enjoy the tone of the song, and think it's quite lovely. I don't really like the ending too much though. I still l’amour the song though.

Mother Knows Best
I like this song too, though not as much as When...

@arendelle's Least to favori Disney Princess Movies.

posted by arendelle

Hi! I'm @arendelle and this is my list, least to favorite. Enjoy!

11: Beauty and The Beast

This movie, I simply found boring. It reminds me of most films where a girl looks inside of the man and he saves her. The end. To me, it was a very cliche modern fairy tale, one I'd probably make up as a child to tell an adult. I feel like Beauty and The Beast scores better with a younger audience than an older one, since it teaches good moral values that maybe little one's don't know but we do.
Music: I found the musique poorly written and rushed. Even though I do like the chorus in the song Belle a lot,...

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Getting to know @arendelle

posted by arendelle

Hi! I'm @arendelle, aka Ariana, and this is my get to know me article.

I'm a huge fan of Disney/Broadway, without a doubt. I'm going to see Wicked (sometime in early December, tickets aren't on sale until September), and Phantom of the Opera (January 11th). The first ever play I saw was Beauty And The Beast, and I got to meet Belle. (I was really excited when I did meet her as a child).

So I see people make a liste of their favori Disney Princesses, so I guess I'll make mine :)

1: Cinderella
2: Aurora
3: Ariel
4: Pocahontas
5: Mulan
6: Belle
7: Tiana
8: Rapunzel
9: Merida
10: Elsa
11: Anna
12: Snow White...

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★ icone of The Month: May Winner! ★

posted by Emmalou13

1st place: "I See the Light" - euny

Welcome to the 3rd icone of the mois Article!!!

This time our Winner is *Drumroll*

euny with her Icon: "I See The Light"
Congrats girl!!!

2nd: nmdis: "Red"
3rd: CraZy_rawR: "Details"

Here is the interview with the winner, euny!

~ About toi ~

When did toi join?
I don’t remember, but I wasn’t very active until last year.

Why did toi join?
Because I was starting to l’amour Disney.

How did toi pick your username?
It’s a short version of my real name.

What is your favori Princess?
Rapunzel. She's so sweet, intelligent and fun.

~ About the icon: ~

What program did toi use?
PicMonkey.

How did you...

let it go lyrics

posted by amnakhan44

Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold toi back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn my back and slam the door

The snow blows white on the mountain tonight
Not a footprint to be seen
A kingdom of isolation and it looks like I’m the queen
The wind is howling like the swirling storm inside
Couldn’t keep it in
Heaven knows I try

Don’t let them in, don’t let them see
Be the good girl toi always had to be
Conceal, don’t feel, don’t let them know
Well now they know

Let it go, let it go
Can’t hold toi back anymore
Let it go, let it go,
Turn my back and slam the door
And here I stand
And here I’ll stay
Let it...

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Snow White Interview #1

posted by bluethunder25

bluethunder25: Hello everyone, this is bluethunder25 and I am here with the First Lady of The Disney Princesses, the lovely Snow White. Snow, thank toi for taking the time to be here.

Snow White: Thank toi very much for having me.

bluethunder25: Well, Snow White, obviously, you're the first Disney Princess. toi were a Disney Princess before it was even cool to be one. How did it all start for you?

Snow White: Well back in the days cartoon stars had to meet a certain criteria. toi had your Betty Boop's, your Koko's, your Bimbo's; I first approached Flescher Studios and told them I wanted to be...

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Princesses Disney

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