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omg twilight rocks

(tittle was to get people's attention...)

so im a bit curious, im a twilight fan, and i l’amour this sight because a lot of the stuff on her make's good sense... but my question is, there is a lot of people on here that hate twilight, if toi hate it so much why do most of toi constantly talk about it, ou care? dont toi think if someone didnt like something they wouldnt constantly talk about it...

im not trying to be rude im just curious, every one has a right to their own opinion, and id like to hear some... please leave good reasons, please dont attack me, like i a dit im just curious....
 topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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Dearheart said:
Haha, don't worry! Despite the Twilight hate going on most of the time, everyone's really quite friendly here. We won't bite...unless toi bite us first. Which toi haven't, so you're cool. ;-)

First of all, lemme say that it's awesome to meet another sane Twilighter, and I'm glad you're liking the CAT. ^__^

seconde of all, in answer to your question...there are several reasons.

1) Many of us have had very bad experiences with Twilight and the Twihards. It's bad enough seeing something toi don't like invade EVERY shopping mall and bookstore and t-shirt boutique (not to mention some of your favori fanpop spots). It's even worse when some of the crazy fans try to ram it down your throat ou scream mindless, nasty insults at toi if toi dare to criticize it in any way. Sometimes, when it all becomes too much, toi just need to vent about it.

2) One of the reasons why I made this spot is because a lot of people - both pros and antis - simply want to get away from the hype and have a real, intelligent discussion about Twilight. When I read Twilight, and when I did research on the other books, I noticed many themes in it that I believe are bad - such as Bella being a weak, negative role model for girls, Edward's controlling, stalkerish behavior towards her, the way their unhealthy relationship was being portrayed as "true love", etc. toi may not see it like that, and that's fine...but I feel these are interesting and serious issues that should be brought to light, and so do others. Talking about them not only helps us form opinions, but also helps us understand exactly why we don't like the series. It's always good to know what toi believe, and why toi believe it.

3) To be honest...hating on Twilight is kinda...fun. It gets addicting. xD Even the Twilight fans here get a kick out of it. In fact, often it's not about hating Twilight - we just l’amour humor and we like to poke fun at it. It's so ridiculously easy to laugh at and so fun...it's become our own personal brand of heroine...or catnip. Whichever drug toi prefer. =P

Anyway, hope that réponses your question. And BTW, it's awesome that toi l’amour Twilight, and we respect that. Take a look at the banner! Doesn't matter if you're a pro ou an anti - EVERYONE'S welcome here, and every kitten is a potential buddy. So if toi l’amour Twilight, don't be afraid to speak up about it! Support your side; add vidéos ou images, write a soapbox about it, whatever. We won't attack toi ou mock toi if toi do that. Heck, we ENCOURAGE it! If there's one thing CAT probably needs right now, it's balance. I think it would be refreshing to see a bit of Twilight l’amour here. :-)
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Well said, Momcat!
LadyLilith posted il y a plus d’un an
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Haha, thank you! ^__^
Dearheart posted il y a plus d’un an
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yea its pretty funny toi just cant stop your self from laughing :DDDD
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LadyLilith said:
We talk about it all the time because TWILIGHT fans talk about it all of the time. And it's everywhere, and we're very irritated with it, especially when we can see all of the flaws with it, which, in my opinion, are a lot and very big, gaping ones. The biggest reason why though is because we feel like people are trying to force it down our throats, and the obnoxious insane fans, and that kind of ticks us off. I am one of those people. It's annoying to have people flipping out over it everywhere I look, but I could handle that okay I believe. It's the Twihards that really get me, jouer la comédie completely retarded and brainwashed, and saying all kinds of nasty things about us just because we dislike what they like. So what? Everyone has different opinions, let us have them. toi ignore us we ignore you. But they say stuff like we're losers ou something ou crazy simply because we don't care for it. And we can't say anything other than we l’amour it ou else the fans will FREAK OUT on us...THAT'S why we're always talking about it. Because the Twihards continuously piss us off, and we just feel like we have to blow off steam. And I think it's good to dissect livres and discuss things about them. But yeah. A lot of people on the C.A.T. spot may hate Twilight, but a lot of people on here like it too. So long as no one fights, the world goes round here. And toi won't get shouted at for pondering something out loud! Isn't it wonderful? :)

I mean absolutely no offense whatsoever to anyone, I was just anwering the question. Thank toi for getting up the courage to ask, topazEYEs91. Because of all the anti's on here, the Twilight fans are intimidated to say anything. toi shouldn't be! We don't bite. It's only the retarded crazy fans we hate; if toi like Twilight, we don't care. We l’amour your opinions too.
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thanks for answering it does make sense why it would be annoying.... thank toi for not biting my head off MDR i didnt want any body to take it the wrong way...
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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MDR don't worry. :) I think we would only get upset if toi were like, "OMG HOW CUD U NT LKE TWILIGHT U FREAKS???!!!!" Stuff like that. You're fine.
LadyLilith posted il y a plus d’un an
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I'm very sorry vampiressJazz. :( I'll be your friend!
LadyLilith posted il y a plus d’un an
Plenilunio said:
Glad to see toi joined us, topazEYEs91. Us chatons enjoy some civilized discussion about the Twilight livres and movies.

I agree with everything LadyLilith has said, most of the time it's not the livres ou movies, but the rabid fans. They can go medieval whenever someone doesn't bow at Stephenie's feet while the rest of the world needs to shut up because they take everything personal.

I don't consider myself a hater. "Twilight" was my guilty pleasure and I can still see some good parts in it. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for the fans, I think I'd still enjoy the three first livres (I'm one of those "Breaking Dawn" haters). However, seeing the series get so big got me thinking. The plus I think, the bigger flaws I discover. And I'm not the only one. People here have thought about Twilight too and they all have very interesting ideas to share. Not all of them are haters, there are some fans around who are happy to be here and make their points without being bashed. We may not agree with them, but it's great to read their arguments and see there is no right ou wrong, just different opinions.

Another reason, at least in my case, is that the fact of not liking something doesn't mean I don't like discussing about that something.
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^^ Thank you. I think it is so COOL to be able to talk about things toi could downright HATE with the actual fans of it and still express your opinions thoughtfully with one another, understand each other and not FIGHT! fanpop is a rare and wonderful site. ou the C.A.T. spot is, at least. :)
LadyLilith posted il y a plus d’un an
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i agree
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Mermaid-Tail said:
Another reason, on haut, retour au début of what LadyLilith said, is simply that débats is interesting. toi don't have to like something to find debating about it interesting. Especially something like Twilight, which at this point is plus than a book, it's a public phenomenon.
The same way it's interesting to débats about abortion ou racism, toi don't have to like those things, the discussion is still fascinating (I'm not saying Twilight is anything like racism, for the record, that's just an example of something people débats about without liking). Twilight is reaching many mebers of the public, and it contains themes some people are not ok with, so dicussing those things and hearing the points of veiw of people who completely disagree is interesting.

There's also the fact that some people are simply annoyed par it, and expressng their annoyance is a way to vent. Like personally I'd probably never mention it if it wasn't so popular, because I don't think the messages it sends are ok for the age it's aimed at (not having a go at people who think it is ok, just explaining my point of view) and I like to talk about that concern with others on both sides of the debate. All that as well as what Lady Lilith put. Sometimes it's so shoved in peoples face they need a place to get it off their chest too.

Hope that clears up why some people may want to talk about it even when they dislike it :)
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Yes, it is very fascinating to talk to people with opposing viewpoints. It's like crack ou something.
LadyLilith posted il y a plus d’un an
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hahaha thats why i like c.a.t its fascinating... thx mermaid tail it does clear some things out
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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well its hard not to be annoyed when its everywhere toi turn and toi arent fazed par it.
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Flounder13 said:
I dont like Twilight never have, never will. If toi like it thats fine. As long as there is some sanity in you. Alot of the girls I find who read it ou talk to the media about it make us other girls look like a needy species. Im not a feminist, I watch princess movies, but to be that upset over a fricken sparkly vampire who is personally not that hot is rediculous and for the media to feed them plus and plus crap everywhere they turn is sad. " People magazine" now has Twilight central. Sick, I cant go anywhere without it montrer up. Just sick.
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 I dont like Twilight never have, never will. If toi like it thats fine. As long as there is some sanity in you. Alot of the girls I find who read it ou talk to the media about it make us other girls look like a needy species. Im not a feminist, I watch princess movies, but to be that upset over a fricken sparkly vampire who is personally not that hot is rediculous and for the media to feed them plus and plus crap everywhere they turn is sad. " People magazine" now has Twilight central. Sick, I cant go anywhere without it montrer up. Just sick.
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hahahaha funny pic.. thx everybody for your réponses
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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MDR funny pic :D
twilight0girl posted il y a plus d’un an
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Excuse me, but I don't remember Edward raping anyone.
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Hell_Huntress said:
I've never like Twilight in fact I'm a hater but if toi like it that's fine with me. I don't hate the people that like it(with the exception of the crazy fangirls)
We talk about Twilight all the time because sometimes when something really bothers toi toi want to talk about it with someone else. Sometimes toi want to let the rest of the people know that toi hate something just because it bothers toi and toi can't keep it to yourself. This spot is for intelligent discussion about Twilight. toi view Twilight in your own way and we view it in our own way. We won't kill toi about that. In fact we like toi for that. It gives us a chance to know each other better and discuss our vues on the subject. This is not a hater spot so don't be afraid... we don't bite :D:D:D:D
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hahaha thats good i dnt want to be bitten MDR thx for the answeres
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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Hi hi!!!! No prob.
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Perplexed said:
I a dit this somewhere else on here already, but it's worth repeating. I think any time there's something so insanely populaire and pervasive in today's culture, and especially among such a vulnerable population, it's the responsible and appropriately self-reflective thing to do to think critically about it and try to understand it's appeal rather than accept it blindly ou even dismiss it outright. Twilight is an escapist vice for me as was Roswell back in the early 2000s ou the odd Gossip Girl episode. I know these things are not exactly mind-blowingly intelligent - the writing's poor, the plot holes are vast and the realism is nil - but, sometimes it's fun to just let go of it all for a while and enjoy the silliness. The problem is, and the thing we have to be most cautious about, is that 13 an old girls can't always tell the difference between escapist and realistic expectations and the degree to which their obsessions are extending is disturbing. And yet the marketing continues to target younger and younger girls without regard for the implications. It's irresponsible for us as a society to make that okay.
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yea, i know what toi mean, when i went to go watch new moon half of the girls where under the age of 13...
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zelo said:
Well, I think the main reason why we hate twilight and attack it is mostly because we have had a super bad experience with the book ou the Twi-hards. This often makes, toi feel like toi can not find a way to feel sympathetic. Like when I was one jour there were these eighteen an old girls all decked in everything Team Edward and walked up to me. They were like do toi like Twilight? I politely a dit no and explained why. I also a dit I loved Harry potter. For a few secondes they didn't say anything, but then started taunting me, saying Harry Potter is for "bitches who will burn in hell,"- quoted from them. As much as I make fun of Twi-hards on this spot, I would never say what they said. I was like twelve, almost thirteen. It really didn't hurt me, in just made me upset that people would have the nerve to say what they did. Personally, that was the point when i felt it important that toi can be rude to Twilight- and CAT obviously added to the hatred. But, I think it was good of toi to ask why we say what we say. It was really good of you- toi wanted a good explanation as to why this is... I hope toi understand where I'm coming from. It is understandable for people to get upset, not that toi did, but saying that anyone who is- we do critisize Twilight harshly... but salut everything's got a reason!
I hope this answer helps toi to understand. Also one of my best friend is a twi-hard... and my 1st cousin is a Twi-hard*10 and is obsessed with Robert Pattinson, so all that adds to why I think Twilight is annoying, dumb, and pathetic... but that's my opinion! Hope I helped toi out!!!:)
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How dare they asy that about Harry Potter, par the way Im the new patauger, plie grise 13 if toi hadnt heard. Flounder13 died. She got locked out of her accueil and starved to death almost but she met this handsome man from " Boy Meets World" named Eric Matthews and she married him, and now lives there.
MrsEric_M posted il y a plus d’un an
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oops! hpocrisy in my own sentence, I a dit I died and then a dit I lived, guess I didnt was on the verge. This is all aléatoire so ignore me.
MrsEric_M posted il y a plus d’un an
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thank toi i respect everyone here too, sometimes i dont like the stuff people say here but thats why i like it here cause of the discussions... no prob us chatons are here ou each other ;)
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Impulse85 said:
toi know, I was just asked this question par my mom today. I'm actually a neutral when it comes to the books. I l’amour THE VOLTURI!!!!! They pretty much stick to the tradtional vampire roll. Being scary and aggrasive. Those are the kind of vampires I enjoy lire about. But when it comes to the unhealthy relationship I see between Edward and Bella, it really makes me upset. I used to be just like Bella, the damsel who couldn't see anything outside of her boyfriend and I let a guy control me the same way Bella pretty much does. I was left and I went into a deep depression because of it. Now that I've moved on, I know better now and to see something so familiar to me played out in a populaire novel like this really upsets me. How many other girls are going to go through the same Hell I went through becuase a book told them that being a weak little girl and having a controling boyfriend who does everything for toi is okay. That's what has always upset me about the books. I know toi probably don't see any of that when toi read the book and I know a lot of Twilight fans don't, but it's a different point of view. Here at C.A.T. That's okay. I had to explain this to my mom the same way. She remembered all too well having to take me to the hospital after my break up. (Yeah, it was that bad) But, I didn't jump off any cliffs, so I guess I'm good there. I like being able to talk about my likes and dislikes here because I know I won't get attacked for my opnion and this seems to be the only spot I can do that on. Okay, enough of my rambling. Just so toi know though, I'm not a complete hater. I just can't stand the two main characters, but I really do adore the rest of them, I just believe they should get plus attention then they do. That's just another issue of mine...lol. Wow! listen to me, I'm issue girl. I'll just montrer off my reason for loving the livres below and stop ranting now. *Awkward silence*
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 toi know, I was just asked this question par my mom today. I'm actually a neutral when it comes to the books. I l’amour THE VOLTURI!!!!! They pretty much stick to the tradtional vampire roll. Being scary and aggrasive. Those are the kind of vampires I enjoy lire about. But when it comes to the unhealthy relationship I see between Edward and Bella, it really makes me upset. I used to be just like Bella, the damsel who couldn't see anything outside of her boyfriend and I let a guy control me the same way Bella pretty much does. I was left and I went into a deep depression because of it. Now that I've moved on, I know better now and to see something so familiar to me played out in a populaire novel like this really upsets me. How many other girls are going to go through the same Hell I went through becuase a book told them that being a weak little girl and having a controling boyfriend who does everything for toi is okay. That's what has always upset me about the books. I know toi probably don't see any of that when toi read the book and I know a lot of Twilight fans don't, but it's a different point of view. Here at C.A.T. That's okay. I had to explain this to my mom the same way. She remembered all too well having to take me to the hospital after my break up. (Yeah, it was that bad) But, I didn't jump off any cliffs, so I guess I'm good there. I like being able to talk about my likes and dislikes here because I know I won't get attacked for my opnion and this seems to be the only spot I can do that on. Okay, enough of my rambling. Just so toi know though, I'm not a complete hater. I just can't stand the two main characters, but I really do adore the rest of them, I just believe they should get plus attention then they do. That's just another issue of mine...lol. Wow! listen to me, I'm issue girl. I'll just montrer off my reason for loving the livres below and stop ranting now. *Awkward silence*
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Wow, awesome answer. (And Dakota makes quite the scary little vampire child, doesn't she?) xD
Dearheart posted il y a plus d’un an
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awww im srry u had to go through a hrooiable breakup.... i liked the volturi in the movie, felix was great... thx for the answer..
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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yea it was really entertaining watching edward get beat up, that was one of my favori part when felix smashes edward and his check busts open MDR your here to rant im here to listen ;)
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DanteDouglas said:
BECAUSE IT'S THE FUCKING INTERNET. GTFO.
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That was a bit unnecessary :(
sapherequeen posted il y a plus d’un an
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yea it was ;(
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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This is for intellectual debate! She wants an honest answer to a good question! Sheesh!
MadamOcta13 posted il y a plus d’un an
sapherequeen said:
Well, I can't speak for everyone (but it looks like no one else was offended) but I found no offense in your question :)
To be honest, I sometimes think the same thing. Sometimes I wonder if obsessive Twilight haters know that they are just as bad as the obsessive Twilight fans when it comes to realizing that Twilight is...well, just a book and truly not worth that much attention. Not to offend anyone on this club (and I don't think that about anyone here)...

But my best guess as to why people express great dislike for Twilight on this club is because this club is the only place they can express their opinions. I mean, think about it. The Twilight series fanclub has over 42,000 fans par now, meaning Twilight fans are almost everywhere on Fanpop. If they expressed how much they didn't like the series in another club such as the aléatoire fanclub, what are the odds of an immature, obsessive Twilight fan bashing them for it? Here, no one can bash anyone, it's like the devise and the banner says.

People here can have whatever opinion they wish, and that's why I think a lot of Twilight haters express their feelings here most often. :)
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yea i agree i was thinking the same thing about ur first paragraph.... but yea i l’amour this site, i find my self here plus then the twilight fanpop... thx for the answer
topazEYEs91 posted il y a plus d’un an
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I agree. This is a great way to vent.
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MadamOcta13 said:
Personally, I'm here because I can't stand Twilight. There are so many fangirls who go over the haut, retour au début (notice that I'm not saying all the fangirls) with this and assume that everyone loves Twilight. I like to be with others who disagree, and to discuss exactly what I don't like about it. I don't like bashing ou anything, but I do like to get away from the hype.
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