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animé Out of some of the most offensive characters I have ever laid eyes upon, who is your favorite?

23 fans picked:
Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan
   30%
Rias Gremory ~ High School DxD
   22%
Death the Kid ~ Soul Eater
   17%
Zero Two ~ DARLING in the FRANXX
   13%
Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!
   13%
Grell Sutcliff ~ Black Butler
   4%
Darkness ~ KonoSuba!!
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Makoto Itou ~ School Days
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
He is the least offensive of the bunch in my opinion. I dislike the fact that he is the most forced and unrealistic portrayal of men I have seen in anime, but I realize that in the end there were pure intentions in the production of his character. Meanwhile, Kid and Darkness turn serious mental illness into comedy and lightheartedness. Grell is a stigmatized and generic representation of the queer community while Rias and Zero Two are inaccurate and sexist portrayals of women that only exist for tasteless middle schoolers to fawn over. They may have a tad of personality and depth, but the reasons people gravitate towards them are wrong. Mikasa is so thirsty and desperate for Eren that she makes a mockery of women herself, writing them off as dependent on men. While there were reasons for her lack of individuality, they were invalidated as the story progressed due to the sheer repetition and surrealism of her actions. Makoto is an infidel in a sense that contributes absolutely nothing positive to the story, and I'm sure most of us can agree on that one.
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Blaze1213IsBack picked Death the Kid ~ Soul Eater:
^The more you explain the more I see why don't like some anime's and character's. ...but you always respect if people do like the anime or character you don't like.
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
Of course. People like things for different reasons. I've only stated the main, typical reasons people tend to admire these characters, and why they personally offend me a lot. Thank you for commenting!
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TodoMomoUA04 picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
Now I also like Mikasa, Death the Kid, and Grell, but Nagisa has this innocence to him that none of the others have (because Eren and an "every shonen protag must have a depressing backstory" trope (ik she isn't the main character but she's in Eren's, comedic OCD and that one time he groped Liz and Patty, and unrequited love that is almost disgusting for Sebastian respectively)
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MewStrawberry picked Zero Two ~ DARLING in the FRANXX:
I also really like Rias though. This is hard.
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PureHeroine picked Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan:
Sure, she's is obsessed with Eren, that's true. But I honestly don't think she's a mockery of women at all. She grew and developed as a character. You need to read the manga xD Or watch the 4th season when it comes out.

She's amazing <333
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
@PureHeroine

Does she become entirely independent and not at all obsessive with Eren? Otherwise, I loathe her. Feel free to cite examples; I hate being wrong. Thus far, fans label her as a feminist symbol when she is actually the exact opposite. Portraying women as dependent on men is sexist in itself, regardless of the reason. I find it very contradictory that she constantly brags about how she's better than everybody else yet needs a man to keep her sanity. If anything, she's one of the most emotionally weak characters in the franchise despite being psychically overpowered.
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
@PureHeroine

But hey, to each their own. Mikasa has some good qualities. I like her character design, for instance --- it's natural yet charming at the same time. I like that AoT in general showcases natural beauty. Another example of something likable about her is her backstory. That does explain her obsession with Eren. It's just how repetitive her obsession became that bothered me. I barely saw any other personality traits.
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simrananime picked Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan:
Honestly Eren was always more dependent on Mikasa for protecting him than she was xD And both men and women need eachother. If your idea of women empowerment is only 'i need no man' then that's kinda shallow. She can be powerful and love whoever she wants. Sometimes people find the meaning of their life in others which was very evident after seeing her backstory. Also if she was overly attached to another female character then I don't think people will have the same attitude xD It's fine if you don't like her personality but I don't think gender has anything to do with it or it was sexist xD
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
@simrananime

I don't recall Eren depending on her even close to as much as she did with him, but it has been a while since I last watched the show, so let me know if you have some examples. I don't doubt you. Humans naturally depend on each other for different things, but when your entire life revolves around a single person as Mikasa's does with Eren, that's extremely unhealthy and weak. That's obsession, not love. I know by experience how toxic and obsessive relationships can destroy you inside and out. Nobody should rely on anyone like that regardless of gender. I am specifically disturbed by the fact that women are already generalized this way in most countries including Japan; this is why I found her interpretation of that quality forced and insensitive towards current societal expectations. The primary issue was how she had no other traits or dispositions other than her infatuation with Eren, so this became very repetitive and wiped away any sense of personality she ever had. While men can certainly have the same issues she had, their expectations are vastly different, so it didn't spark nearly as much controversy. Hypothetically, if your claim is true, Eren would be a sexist portrayal of men too because they are expected to be independent. I only omitted said opinion because I can't think of any dependence he had on her. He never intentionally relied on her; she took it upon herself to smother and baby him. He was the one who kept her in line emotionally because he saved her and that's all Mikasa cares about.
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LittleMissBook picked Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan:
I used to really hate her, but now I love her so much <3 She is such a strong and admirable female character, and I overall agree a lot with Pure. I don't think being dependent on someone is necessarily a weak trait, in fact it's what Mikasa has gained so much strength from. Eren did give her a reason to live after all.

Though I can see why some people don't like her, I was one of the myself once after all :p
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
If your reason for living is another person, that reflects a lack of individuality and self-esteem. It can impair you more than it can assist you. Mikasa is a pristine example of that. I was once in a long-term relationship where I viewed my significant other the same way Mikasa viewed Eren, and I tried to drown myself because of it. He tried to jump off a building. I was sent to a mental institution for another separate attempt. Nobody has ever gained long-term joy from leaning on another person for everything. The last thing Mikasa has ever been was emotionally strong. She is unrealistically overpowered in regards to physicality, but she has the mentality of an edgy and foolish middle schooler only grasping the very beginnings of what love should really be. All relationships are different, but obsession is where a line must be drawn, regardless of the circumstance.

Nevertheless, people have different values they utilize when developing their opinions, and a fictional character should never be evaluated as if they were a real person. I completely respect your right to an opinion and I do believe you present very valid points regarding the character. Morality is irrelevant to me as long as they have understandable reasons for being misguided. Mikasa may have reasons, but they grew in so much prominence that it became her identity. She had no other personality traits due to the sheer repetition and recurrence of her infatuation with Eren, and it at times slowed down the overall plot of the anime. This is why I dropped it after three tries.
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PureHeroine picked Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan:
@Lusamine I won't go into details unless you want me to spoil. But as I said in my comment on your wall, there is an explanation on her obsession with Eren that only manga readers know right now. And she has great development after this revelation. Her parents were murdered before her eyes and Eren was the one to give her a reason to live again.
I would have delved deeper but I think LittleMissBook and simrananime summed up all I'm thinking.

But again, I can understand the hate. She's annoying at times. Won't fault someone who'll tell me they hate her. I just think 'mockery to women' is a bit extreme and I thought I'd voice my opinion. Also I much agree with the characters design thing.
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
@PureHeroine

I'm not offended by your statements, so don't worry. I have a feeling we'll always disagree with the sexist aspect, so I'll just leave that alone. Thank you for being conscious about spoilage. I will wait for the event you speak of to occur in the anime; my opinion may completely change. It is understandable that she leans on Eren a lot considering her past, but anybody who ships and promotes such a toxic relationship is a sadist. There is nothing romantic about it. If she had any other character depth besides the situation with Eren, I'd probably love her. I'll take your word for it about her in the manga and give it a shot anyway.
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PureHeroine picked Mikasa Ackermann ~ Attack on Titan:
^ I always disliked Eremika. I agree with that. I think she's more suited to Jean (realisticly, even though I don't necessarily ship it). I don't have a problem with people who ship it though, I'm all for ship and let ship. But I understand your reasoning.
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Lusamine picked Nagisa Hazuki ~ Free!!:
@PureHeroine

I never meant to imply that you or anyone else in this thread shipped them, so sorry if I came off that way! I agree that she and Jean would be a healthier pair despite my personal indifference toward the thought. I have no problem with people who ship couples I despise, but Eremika is one of the very few exceptions to this rule. Those who promote obsessive and unhealthy relationships repulse me.
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