Of course she didn't want anyone to know about it! And she didn't want Henry to be calling her the 'Evil Queen' then he'll hate her even more.

It was very-very cruel. No loving mother would ever do that to her own child! Force the psychiatrist to do whatever it takes, not caring that it might mess up your child's mind and emotion for life, just so you can be safe!


That is beyond cruel and selfish!

It's one of my many arguments against the theory of gina's love for Henry. She does not love him. Not truly. It is interesting though that she made herself believe that she does.

^^ agreed

Gina's love for Henry isnt just a theory. Its a fact that Lana, the one who kind of makes the character who she is, said that Gina loves him.

However I wouldn't call it cruel by no means. Henry's belief in these Fairytales were putting him in danger, may I point out the mind shaft collapse. She was trying to keep him safe as much as she was trying to keep her secret a secret.

Regina's love for Henry is a fact. Period. Part of her wanting to keep her secret a secret was because she wanted Henry to love her and she didn't want to loose him. If she didn't love him she wouldn't have been so fearful of loosing him when Emma came to town. Regina raised him from an infant which creates a strong motherly bond that can never be broken no matter how many times Henry says he hates her. I don't like to admit it there were times as a child when I was angry and I uttered that despicable word to my mother. I saw the same look on my mothers face that I seen on Regina's. It was one of deep hurt and sadness. Which you only get when someone you love with all your heart says something to you like that.

So yes Regina does love Henry.

The psychiatrist refused to do what the mother asked because it was bad for the child's mental health. I don't see love in most of gina's actions regarding Henry.

So, no. I don't think gina loves Henry. Hopefully she will learn how to love one day.

^^ Well said, props to you. ^_^

Archie had actually defended Gina in some instances. He told Emma she was a good mother. I don't know the quote word for word but he had said "Everyone else yes, but she'd never hurt him (Henry)" Archie doesn't like her but he has admitted especially when Emma talked to him that Gina is a good mother and that is was the conflict between Emma and Gina that was hurting him. And one can't place that conflict solely on Gina, as it takes two to fight. Gina wouldn't let Emma see him,Emma tried to kidnap Henry. If anything both of them are at fault. Emma and Gina are hurting him with the conflict yet both of them care very much for him.
You're always telling me that I am denying facts. Not only did Lana say Regina does love Henry but so did Gina in the end, that is a fact, not just my opinion. She knows how to love but the people she does love or show care for never seem to return it.

her facts do not prove love. Lana may want to play gina as a loving mother, but the script proves differently. That's no fact, but merely an intention. The fact is the psychiatrist refused to do what the mother asked because it was bad for the child's mental health.

They kind of do. If an actress is portraying their character in a certain way it, well that's kind of how the character will be. The script proves her right; when she told Henry she loved him in the end, when she was willing to go down into the collapsing mine for him, when she apologized to him for losing the book, when she got mad at Emma for trying to take him, ect. All of those tings are facts, they actually happened and I'm not just guessing or predicting thy will. If it is intention then she's doing a great job of solidifying those intentions. Yet he also declined some of Emma's ideas about how to treat him. I guess Emma's a bad mom too?

there is a HUGE difference between saying "I love you" and proving your love.

Emma truly loves Henry because her kiss woke him up and broke the curse. It is true love.

I've stated many times in which she proved her love. None seem to be good enough for you. I don't know your definition of love, but in my opinion she has done some loving things for him.

yes.. I remember you said she took him lunch or something like that..

but how does that little thing stand besides messing with his mind?

or using him as a pretext for a romantic date (the false letter she used to allure David)

etc.

But anyways... a lot of people seem to think just as you. Why MUST you convince ME? why should the arguments be for me? I know is very mainstream to like the evil Q. But I have good reasons not to. and I don't mind not going with the trend.

She's gotten him comic books and video games. She built him a new playground, as she saw that he missed the other one (in which she took down partly because she thought it was unsafe to play on). She, according to her quot from the beginning, soothed very fever and endured every tantrum. She hugs and kisses him and is telling him she loves him and that he's a good kid. She does everything she can to see to it that he is safe.

The only people I see agreeing with me are Tvfan and zalice, sometimes others. And I know there are many people who strongly disagree. Well isn't that what debates are for? Aren't you trying to convince me of your points? Based on what I've seen its 50/50 you love Gina or you hate her. It's more mainstream to like the good guys, look at a lot of the Gina vs Snow Gina vs Emma Gina vs Gold picks, she always loses. It's not very mainstream to like her, her fans just tend to be more vocal than the haters. And possibly the other fandoms?

I agree with you too Zanhar1.


Love is not just one single action or moment. Love can and IS shown in countless ways. The way Regina shows love is different than the way lets say Mary Margaret shows love.

I can't understand how people can say "that doesn't PROVE love" what is it for you to decide what IS or ISN'T a sign of love. Everyone has their own expressions of love. Yes it may be different than the way you would typically show love, but it doesn't make it any less meaningful. Love is love and Regina HAS shown her love for Henry and PROVEN it.

it's your opinion. it's my opinion. I don't mind not being mainstream.. but please don't jump all on me. no need for attacks. It's ok if you can't understand me. I don't understand many things as well.

Calm down, this is in no way an "attack". And I guess I don't understand how you can't see all the ways Regina has shown her love for Henry when they are pretty clear.

When the show first started, I wasn't on the Regina bandwagon yet but I could tell in that first episode when she ran to hug Henry, that was love. Her worry for his safety was clearly shown in her emotional embrace.

I don't understand how you can say that a mother who messes up with her child's mind, uses him as a pretext to have a love affair etc. loves her child. I agree. She did some nice things towards him. But what about all the dreadful things she did to him? this mixture of actions is my point when saying she does not love henry, but would probably like to be able to love him.

I don't mind if you can't understand me. As I've sayd, I don't understand you either. so, it's ok.

When the show first started I was a fan of Regina. Mainly because I usually like the villains in a show. But after the first epsides, after seeing and finding out more about her I couldn't be a fan anymore.

Well since we're talking about our first Once experiences; In the beginning I thought Once was a boring show but then I gave it a try because I saw Gina and I'm drawn in by the villains. And I mentally slapped myself for calling Once boring. ^_^

:-) Zanhar1: you took ALL of my words in that debate lol! Thanks :-) We think alike (about Gina anyway) <3

Thanks. ^_^ And no problem. We do don't we. :P

Yeah :-)

I dont think she wanted everyone to think he was crazy, and she obviously did not think he was crazy, since she knew what he was saying was true. I think she was just hoping that Archie could convince Henry that the fairytale stuff was not true.

Yes elstef your correct.

She wanted him to stop believing in the Curse and trying to break it. She also wanted him to stop looking at her as the Evil Queen. And if the Curse was never broken, she probably thought it'd be healthier for Henry to stop believing in it.