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Yesterday morning,when I looked up information for Frozen's sequel,I found something that baffled my mind beyond belief.It was an article,which stated that Idina Menzel herself,is a supporter for making Elsa a lesbian and giving her a girlfriend.
Where the hell do I even begin with this idea...? Well,let's start with what my reaction towards it was.
When I first saw this yesterday,I was both sad and furious.Even when I had class in the morning,I couldn't shake this out of my head.I think this is even worse than that time they a dit they're going to montrer a plus playful side of Elsa!
Before we actually begin this article,let's get some things out of the way first:
First,I'm not going to rant here as much as I did in my "What I want the sequel for La Reine des Neiges to do" article.I have calmed down since yesterday and I'll try to be plus justifiable and less angry.
Second,if toi disagree with me,more power to you! We all have different opinions and I can certainly respect that.
Third,if there's going to be part in this article that toi don't like,then I'm sorry.I never meant to insult anyone.
Fourth,because I had a lot of things in my mind,I'm sorry if this article is kind of all over the place.
Let's begin:
Now,when I a dit that Elsa being a lesbian is idiotic,it's not because I'm a homophobe,because I'm not.I have become plus accepting of gay people,and I've learned to be plus accepting and respectful of them.
No,my reasons as to why I believe it's stupid,are justifiable and are not based on prejudice ou homophobia,but rather common sense.
One of those reasons being is that,many people believe the "Let It Go" moment is suppose to represent homosexual people being able to montrer their true selves.But it's not entirely true.
Many have zeroed in on Elsa.Elsa has come to represent alternative lifestyles.She seems to be a role model for those who don’t fit the “norm”. She steps out of society’s rules in several ways.For one,she’s one of the few Disney heroines without a l’amour interest.Elsa also represents "freedom and tolerance". When Elsa “let it go” in the film,it seemed to send the message that told kids, “It’s okay to be yourself.Don’t conceal what’s inside”. This especially relates to the LGBT because most of them often feel they have to “conceal” ou hide who they are to feel plus “normal”. So for them,if anyone is to represent LGBT,it should be her.
There are many who are for the push and many who are against it.The conservative,religious folk just feel it isn’t right for their kids.There are also those fans that already shipped her with Jack Frost.
par the titre of the article,you could guess that I'm completely against it.
The main reason being is that I don't think Elsa should be that character.
Mostly because...what’s wrong with a character being single? It’s bad enough for women to be damsels in distress,but let’s not forget that women are also often stereotypically clumped with the romance genre.It was refreshing to see a female character that showed no interest in romance and had no issues with betrothal ou anything marriage-related (like Merida). Just a refreshing story about a woman who wanted to break free and montrer her strengths.
I know what a lot of toi might be asking: "But Renegade! What does it matter if Elsa is gay ou not?"
If she becomes a lesbian,the movie will only sell in America…but the movie will be banned in other religious countries.So how is this going to be another billion dollar movie? If we’re thinking from a business perspective making Elsa gay can break the movie’s reputation and interfere with revenue.And its not because of what I believe [is] right and wrong.But rather most of the world is not as progressive ou tolerant of gay people like Americans.Elsa would do better being single,for the sake of making worldwide success.If they make her gay,this movie will be a financial flop worldwide and will be filled with criticism.
Also,why must Elsa find love? Part of her appeal was being a single and independent woman.She had different interests other than romance and proves that l’amour does not always have to be romantic.The first movie proved that.By giving her a romantic l’amour interest,it will deviate from that message:that l’amour does not always have to be romantic to save the day.The bond between sisters saved the day.I think they should focus on that.
…Why must we change (her from being single and independent to suddenly being a romantic) to fit an agenda? Why don’t they ask for a brand new character that is gay? Elsa was inspirational because she was single.By saying she should be gay ou straight,people are insinuating that a person should never be without a romantic partner and that being single is somehow “sad”. Why is her being alone such a bad thing? Why is being single not good enough for people? It’s like the world suspects if you’re not straight,you’re gay and there is no room to be single ou even in-between! I’m tired of people assuming a single woman ou a man who refuses to marry ou rendez-vous amoureux, date is classified as “gay” (Trust me,I experienced that A LOT!). This just reinforces such stereotypes and doesn’t leave room for the imagination nor does it leave room for people to be okay living a single life regardless of their sexual orientation.
She was a loner and wanted to do her own thing.If this were to change,people like me would no longer relate to what made her character so great in the first place.She wasn’t focused on love,she focused on the powers inside of her.
Take the Lord of the Rings films for instance.While they're great films and changed a lot of cinema forever,there some are problems that still bother me.One of those problems being is that Sam and Frodo 's relationship looks plus like a relationship between a gay couple,then a relationship between friends.
Now,if they were gay,I wouldn't mind that.Heck,I think it would actually be refreshing.But the problem with that is that Tolkien didn't want to montrer the power if love,but the power of friendship.And the films makes them look like they l’amour each other as a couple,more than Friends who look up for one-another.
And while it wouldn't bother me if they were gay,but that was not the intention of the Tolkien.So it just comes off as...kind of weird,to say the least.
The reason I referenced Lord of the Rings,it's because it's the same thing with Frozen.
La Reine des Neiges wanted to montrer that the l’amour between family members is just as strong as l’amour between two people.So par sucking out Frozen's main theme,it will end up as forced and wholly unnecessary.
Sure,Anna had a romantic story with Kristoff,but it comes to montrer that there are differences between Elsa and Anna.Anna is romantic,while Elsa has no interest in it.That's why it bothers me so much if they give her a l’amour interest (Whether it be a male ou a female.).
And now comes the ranting part...:
I absolutely HATE the entire Elsa ship thing! She is not supposed to be with anyone! If people cannot realize that they are missing the whole point of her character in the movie.She is very strong and independent.She loves Anna to the end of the earth and back,but when it comes to romance,she has no time ou interest for it.She is alone and she is happy with finally just being able to be herself and have acceptance.She is a free spirit and a symbol to montrer young girls and women alike that what is important is being yourself.You don't have to pine after men (Or women in this case.) to be happy with your life regardless of the fact that society may frown upon it,but its your life and toi make the best of it.Not everyone is meant to be with someone and some women are just happier on their own and nothing anyone does ou says can change that.She is a symbol of strength,power,independence,and l’amour and to EVER pair her with ANYONE is just wrong and ruins the symbol she has become and the message she delivers to the film.
This is basically Disney telling me:
"Oh,this character is single and is a role model for those who suffer from depression and loneliness! WELL SCREW YOU!!! We'll make her a lesbian because if someone is single,then they must be gay. Oh,you're single yourself,well then you're a sad,little gay fool.We all know that people being single is stupid!"
It honestly feels like Disney has turned into that jackass from high-school who called toi a faggot (Sorry about that,I didn't mean to insult anyone.) because toi were single.
I'm sorry,I seemed to have projected myself in there a little bit.
On the same jour I saw that article,I asked this question on Quora :"Why does everyone believe that Elsa is a lesbian just because she didn't have a l’amour interest in Frozen?". After that,most of the réponses seemed to lean toward making her lesbian,which saddened me.As I said,I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals,but her character has been established to be single.
A commenter a dit this: " It costs nothing, because La Reine des Neiges has already grossed about a billion dollars (before licensing) and kids will never (pardon the phrase) let it go, and despite the question details, it’s not the equivalent of calling a man gay, because Elsa isn’t a real person and is whatever “her” creators say she is."
Yeah,that's a bunch of bullcrap (Sorry about that.). As I a dit multiple times,if they make Elsa a lesbian,this movie would only gross in America because there are other countries in the world that aren't as progressive as America and are against homosexuality.And her character was meant to be a symbol that not everyone must find a l’amour interest to feel complete with their lives to be happy.
I'm not saying that toi should never be in l’amour with someone,that's ludicrous.What I meant is that "not EVERYONE" should,especially if they have no interest in it whatsoever.
And about that commentaire of caring about a fictional character,let me ask toi this question? Did toi ever have a character whom toi related to,looked up to,connected with,respected,enjoyed to the point toi wish it was real? I know that Elsa is a fictional character and can never be real, (That is,if the far future doesn't invent something to do so.) but that doesn't make her any less real to me.
I’m not proud of it,but sometimes I have issues with controlling my actions and temper.Before becoming a fan of Frozen,it was a lot worse and when I lashed out,I would scare myself with what I would do.Once,when me and my classmates were waiting in the hallway for the teacher to come,I was lire an article on my tablet,when suddenly,a girl came and accidentally made me drop it to the ground.I was so angry and I scared her and almost made her cry.I've been trying to get help,but my parents won't let me.But seeing how Elsa was able to control her powers par the end helped me make progress even faster.Frozen (Or,should I say "Elsa" ) has saved me.
And it was the first time there was a Disney female character,who had no interest in romance and didn't end up with anyone.I know that Merida did the same thing,but I couldn't really relate to her character,and she was a princess.Elsa was a Queen and I could relate to her,which made her my favorite.
I don't want Elsa to be a lesbian and get a girlfriend in the sequel,not because I lust for her and want her for me.But because if she would end up as a lesbian,not only do I think it would make her less relatable for people like me,but also ruin what her character stands for.
In conclusion,if toi disagree with me,I won't try to stop toi from it.However,I do ask toi to understand where I'm coming from and why I'm against it.Not just from a personal level,but from a logical and business standpoint to.
As always,smell ya' later!
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Okay this took quite a while. I got Lost in different chinese zodiac -meanings websites some time il y a and I started worder what characters princesses would be. I personally don't believe horoscopes.
This goes quite backwards as we don't know which an princesses are born. Anyway these are the results. There was no dragon ou pig so put their descriptions at the end in case someone's interest.






Tiana-Rat
 The rat is hardworking, industrious and shrewd. People born in the an of the rat are also charming and have magnetic personalities. It's a dit that finding a poor rat is rare, since they are good in business.
The rat is hardworking, industrious and shrewd. People born in the an of the rat are also charming and have magnetic personalities. It's a dit that finding a poor rat is rare, since they are...
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As many of toi know, I have been conducting a countdown of the most populaire love's first Kiss scenes. It's been a lot of fun and I'm glad so many people participated! I must say, though, that I find it hilarious that each vote had about 40 participants and less than half of them commented. I mean it even says in the titre that your vote won't count unless toi leave a comment! It doesn't particularly bother me, I have plenty of citations as it is, I just find it funny. :P On to the results...

8. Cendrillon and Charming's kiss

At first I was surprised that they were the first couple to go, considering...
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I wrote this article based in Disney Wiki's trivia.

Snow White: Snow Whites's name means white as snow and she lives in the bavarian Germany, as Rapunzel.
Cinderella: Cendrillon is derived from the French word Cendrillon, which translates in English as "little ash girl".She lives in French.
Aurora: Aurora means "sunrise" ou "dawn" in Latin. Probably she lives in Germany .
Ariel: Ariel means "lion of God" in Roman and she lives in Denkmark.
Belle: Belle means beauty in french and she lives in France.
Jasmine: "Jasmine" is a Persian name for a beautiful fleur and she lives in middle east (a town called...
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This is a liste of the ranking of the most girly and feminime Disney princesses. Clothing, hair, accessories, personality affects



11. Merida
Obviously, she is the less girly princess in the line. That curly hair, she doesn't care about her looks either. She isn't the typical "damsel in distress" who only cry waiting for her prince to come. Playing with weapons all day, how can she be the first place in this countdown?

10. Mulan
Even though a warrior, she still has some girl points. She stays graceful, but still hold the tough girl trait. She can't be the last in this rank

9. Rapunzel
Interestingly,...
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So I thought I'd take a break from the official princesses and find actrices for the non official ones, the four main ones. Giving each of them a haut, retour au début five liste is too much work so I just chose the best actress for each forgotten princess.

Esmeralda-Mila Kunis
One of the most respected actrices in the industry right now. Mila can definitely pull off playing a headstrong but beautiful leading lady. Plus she's got the same exotic features as Esme. Adriana Lima would also be a good choice, but there's abit of a language barrier.

Megara-Olivia Wilde
She plays a somewhat similar role in...
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All right, here's the results of the Favourite Pocahontas Character Countdown! And also my first article, so take a look at the results and (hopefully) enjoy!


15. Ratcliffe
The bad guy of the movie proves to be the least favourite character of most fanpoppers too. Not surprising, considering he isn't one of the most powerful villains in Disney history. He's just greedy and doesn't understand the Indians. Nothing that makes toi hide behind the canapé with your hands over your eyes.

"I HATE people like him." - fhghu

"He gets on my nerves. Not the best villain either. He's too much of a sissy...
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salut everyone, so this article is about my favori DP wardrobes. I´m taking into acount the whole wardrobe of just the original film, so outfits from the sequels are not included. I am judging the wardrobe as a whole, so even if a single outfit of the wardrobe is my favorite, I have to take the other ones into acount as well. I might write another article later with my favori outfits. As with other lists, I might change my mind later on, so here it is.

10.Pocahontas
I do like her dress, but I don´t find it that special and it´s the only thing she wears during the entire movie.
My favorite...
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I don't understand why a lot of users on fanpop don't seem to like Cinderella. I think she is overlooked. People think she just sits around and does nothing but I think there is plus to her than that. I think she is a strong character tho not as strong as the newer heroines such as Belle & Jasmine. I l’amour Cinderella's optimistic attitude & she works hard to get what she wants. I think she is smart. She is mature. She is kind. It amazes me that she still has a positive attitude after all those yrs of being abused par her step family. I wish I can be as positive as she was. I think Cendrillon is a stronger character than Snow White & Aurora. I think she is the strongest out of the classic heroines.
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9. Evil Queen, Once again something related to Snow White is in last place, but for once that's a good thing.

8. Maleficent, as beautiful as she is on the outside, she is only a devil inside. I guess the reason why she didn't get eliminated first was because she was green.

7. Gaston, considered the most attractive male villain, but some consider him either too buff ou too hairy.

6. Lady Tremaine, some find her to be quite lovely for her age, others see her as a mean, ugly hag.

5. Dr. Facilier, he's just considered to be a normal looking guy. Some say he's good looking, others don't.

4. Ursula,...
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 "I just dont think she would be able to control her kingdom and would always need help from the likes of Sebastian etc" -Mongoose09
"I just dont think she would be able to control her kingdom and would always need help from the likes of Sebastian etc" -Mongoose09
*These countdown results are based off of the vues of the Disney Princess fans, and not my own.*

9) Ariel- Our princess of the mois didn't get so far in this countdown. She's bubbly, sweet, and isn't happy with her father's restrictions (Although we learn that there is very good reason for them in The Little Mermaid 3). Some a dit that she was childish, immature, and wouldn't take the job seriously, and with her somewhat reckless decisions and selfishness, most agreed she would make the worst Queen out of the princesses.

 "She's too youthful to be a really good queen." -AllegroGiocoso
"She's too youthful to be a really good queen." -AllegroGiocoso...
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