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posted by Dragonclaws
 Internet joke critcizing Bella's adoration of Edward's stalking
Internet joke critcizing Bella's adoration of Edward's stalking
Okay, I’m a big Twilight fan. I’ve got all the books. I’ve got all the movies. I’ve been to Forks and La Push for Twilight tourism. I have two Twilight T-shirts, one with the Cullen family crest and one with a werewolf presumably supposed to be Jacob. I’m planning to redo my room in a gothique vampire theme based on a Twilight room in a motel in Forks. On the other hand, I’ve gotten into the subject of feminism and feminist analysis, and I’ve been lire all these anti-Twilight articles at link talking about how abusive Edward and Jacob are, and I’ve had a bit of a conflict between my appreciation for both subjects. At this point, I’ve arrived at a compromise between them. Twilight is at its cœur, coeur a sexual fantaisie with two pretty boys to objectify. The boys behave in a way that is hot to fantasize about (for some people’s tastes), but would be bad if done in real life. This is fine as long as it is kept at the level of an unrealistic fantasy, but it is a problem when Edward and/or Jacob are perceived as perfect boyfriends because they technically are abusive.

Twilight is often derisively referred to as porn for tweens, and I think this is fairly accurate but shouldn’t be thought of in a bad way for that. I believe Stephenie Meyer has a dit that she wrote Twilight for adults and that her publisher marketed it to the teenage readership, probably because of its sexual theme but lack of explicit sex. Even without its explicit sex, I think Twilight is very much a sexual fantaisie tying themes of domination and submission common to vampire romances to the sexually-charged teenage years when the most basic exploration of one’s sexuality is powerful. This understandably speaks to the readership of girls as well as women who remember those years. It is porn in a way not commonly performed in such a way that it appeals to a young female mind, which I think is a good thing. Sexuality should be explored safely, and lire fictional literature (and écriture fanfiction) is a sûr, sans danger way to play with fantasies. I think it’s in the interest of feminism that girls are able to do this and the success of Twilight in a way speaks to the progress of society. It’s when Twilight leaves the level of fantaisie and girls start considering Edward and Jacob good boyfriends that there’s a problem, though, because when toi come right down to it they are abusive.

Edward is very abusive and to a lesser extent Jacob is too. Edward has an unhealthy controlling personality and Jacob seems to think it’s okay to force a Kiss if it’s for the sake of romance. I could go into greater detail, but it’s already been done par people plus dedicated than me. Check out “link” par Cinders and the video series “link” par fromthisgirl. As a Twilight fan, I have a negative reaction to strong words like “abusive” and “stalker”, but it’s important to analyze the book from a neutral perspective and detach personal feelings from the issue. Saying Edward’s a stalker isn’t the same as saying “…and you’re evil for liking him!” Now, some antis do make it personal, saying stuff like “Edward sucks, Twilight sucks, and should hate it too if toi don’t want to suck”, and that’s not cool… but not all antis are just rude haters. There is a point to what the feminism-aligned antis are saying when they criticize the characters, which should be recognized.

When Twihards take the fantaisie of Edward and make it into a standard par which to judge boys to see if they’re boyfriend material, that’s a problem. Edward is not good boyfriend material. Edward is a fantaisie based on classic sexist notions of romantic ideals, mixed with vampire rape fantasies. This is something that works on the level of fantaisie but is disastrous in real life. When toi start wanting a boy to stalk toi in real life, that’s a problem. When toi start excusing what amounts to sexual assault, that’s a problem. Feminism has fought to let women be treated as equals, to be shown the same level of respect as men, and not just treated as submissive nonpersons. Do not dishonor feminists par embracing a lack of self-respect! Boys who treat their girlfriends like they’re people are good people and should be respected as good (or potentially good) boyfriend material, not disregarded because they don’t live up to sexist ideals embodied in an abusive, stalking caricature used as the object of desire in an unrealistic sexual fantasy.

It’s important to compartmentalize Edward as only the object of desire in a sexual fantaisie in which he is honored, and to understand that in real life he would be a horrible person who link. Within the context of Twilight as a fantasy, it’s fine to l’amour Edward as the strong, controlling character he is. Some of us—whether due to socialization ou bodily makeup—just like the idea of a partner being this dominating figure. Bella has very little characterization, so she’s an easy vessel to fill and imagine oneself being dominated par this powerful man who has the ability to kill you, who wants to on some level, but never will because he likes you. That’s very attractive to a lot of women and is fine in the level of fantasy. In real life, Edward would be like the villain of a Lifetime original movie, which creep me out so bad.

A lot of feminist antis go a step farther than I do and say that the fantasizing about Edward is problematic in and of itself, and that women shouldn’t have submissive fantasies at all, but I disagree. Some of us are just wired to enjoy those kinds of fantasies. The stigmatization of women who embrace their submissive side within the context of a fantasy is undeserved and seems like classic discriminatory grouping behavior where only the in-group are truly respected. The difference between embracing submission in a fantastical situation and in real life is the element of control. toi always have control over a fantaisie and can just put the book down if you’re not into it. It’s the people who surrender control who are in real trouble and are the real victims. Note that I don’t mean people in healthy BDSM (bondage and discipline, domination and submission, sadism and masochism; I’m aware that’s too many letters) relationships, because in them the submissive person has a safeword to stop all activity whereas unhealthy, abusive relationships give the submissive person no control over the relationship. Twilight can be considered as like a BDSM fantaisie where the fan can safeword out par putting down the book, but Bella has no safeword because she’s a character in the fantaisie and not a real person.

To conclude, Edward and Jacob are dominating objects of desire in what amounts to a sexual fantasy, and shouldn’t be considered good role mannequins for real life boyfriends. In real life, they would be the worst kinds of people with whom to get involved in a serious romantic relationship. However, if toi can keep them compartmentalized as only sex objects in an unrealistic fantasy, there’s nothing wrong with loving them. vampires and loups garous have long been metaphors for dark expression of sexuality, and Twilight is just one plus in a long series of Supernatural rape fantasies. Exploration of sexuality, even dark and dangerous, is perfectly healthy as long as the dangerous stuff is kept at the level of fantaisie and toi always keep the control toi deserve as a human being.
posted by dinosteph
So, I had a really hard time écriture this chapter, I know it's not that good, which is due to the fact that I didn't want to write it. I hit backspace way too many times. I guess I didn't want this to happen to Edward and Bella, its like when I was lire New Moon, I didn't want to keep reading, cause it made it plus true.
So after an heure and a half, this is what I came up with...



Silence has never hurt me so much. Neither one of them a dit anything. I could imagine Alice was doing all the talking, explaining, trying to make Edward understand, to see the futures that laid out before all of...
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I found this and I wondered what everyone would think. Do toi agree ou disagree?

1.
Carlisle's History-- It's clear that the Cullens operate with a different set of rules than most vampires. However, without knowing that it took two centuries of "torturous effort" for the clan's patriarch to perfect his self-control, ou that now, nearly 300 years later, he's developed an immunity to the scent of human blood, toi can't really grasp the struggle that the relatively young Edward faces each time he's near Bella. ou for that matter, the way his actions put the entire Cullen coven at risk.

2.
Alice...
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posted by mrsblack_1089
I dozed off for a while on the plane, and woke up with a jarr as the plane wheels hit the ground. I grabbed my bag and started to walk off the plane. It had been a five heure plane ride and all of the other passengers were stretching before leaving. They were uncomfortable, but I wasn't. Anyhow, I set my bag down and wasted a few minutes to stretch before trying to leave again. I was always forgetting to act human.
I took a shuttle to Brenton which dropped me off right on the campus, giving me the full view.
I looked around in awe. The campus seemed to stretch for miles in every direction!...
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Indigo has issued a press release stating their figures indicate that this an Stephenie Meyers' Twilight series did plus sales than J.K. Rowling's Harry Potter series did last year, which included the final Potter book. Good timing for Twilight, of course, as the movie opens tomorrow. Haven't read the books? Don't fret, "Canada’s Twilight Saga headquarters" surely has plenty of copies left.

For more, read Mark's story (and interview with Meyers) on the occasion of the release of Breaking Dawn, the fourth and "final" book in the Twilight series.

Here is the full Indigo press release:

Young...
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Bella cygne doesn't fall in l’amour with overly-gorgeous guys across a crowded room. "Totally wrong" toi say? "Not according to the books" toi say? Talented 18-year-old actress Kristen Stewart who plays Bella in the upcoming Twilight film based upon the mega-popular novels, wasn't into vampires growing up and has never fallen for a guy immediately just because he's beautiful.

Kristen is strong, opinionated, sure of what she wants and is fast getting a rep as one of Hollywood's most creative and capable young, hard-working actresses. Even in a l’espace adventure film like Zathura, she left an impression...
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posted by vampiress015
Seth has justed pasted this on Stephanie's site:
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October 16, 2008

I just received the following announcement from Elizabeth:

"Exclusive Twilight Listening Parties at Hot Topic stores:

Be one of the first people to hear the entire Twilight soundtrack (in-stores November 4th). Hot Topic will be hosting exclusive listening parties at all of their locations on Friday, October 24th at 7pm. They'll be playing every song, including the previously unreleased songs from Paramore, Rob Pattinson, Perry Farrell and Mutemath, PLUS hear the unveiling of "Bella's Lullaby".

Hot haut, retour au début is also offering 10% off...
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So, the past week had been filled with Twilight pictures. Everyday we got at least 2 amazing pictures. Well, now that the Twilight Illistrated Movie Companion is out, there are scans of pictures from the movie in the book on the internet.

And someone from LiveJournal really caught my eye... in a bad way. This particular person is saying stuff like "**** Summit" ou "**** Twilight Illustrated Movie Companion". What I don't get is... Why do they choose to look at the pictures?! The person who posté these pictures warned that they would be spoilers, and announced not click the link if they didn't want to see them.

Those who want to be surprised par the movie, that's fine. But they shouldn't go around cussin Summit ou Stephenie Meyer ou any other fansite because they chose to view them.
"So you're tellin' me that this girl kills vampires?" Paul a dit in astonishment.
"She isn't the only girl capable of doing it!" Leah growled.
"Take it easy Leah, Paul didn't mean any harm." Sam tried to calm his ex down.
"Sexist pig."Leah mutterd. Ignoring her, Edward spoke up.
"I told Bella and Esme what was going on, and Bella wants to know what she can do to help." he a dit with a certain desperation in his tone.
"Good, bring her over here Jake." Sam commanded his second-in-command. Jacob was almost as supportive as this plan as Edward was.
"Bella, come on." he a dit in such a sad voice....
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posted by yesitsLorLor
Twilight: Fiction ou Friction?

We call this story fiction, but is it creating plus then that?

Wow.

Since when did a book create so much controversy?
Am I the only sane person who has read Twilight? For example, the web sites dedicated to hating Twilight is absolutely childish, now I am no professional on crap, but I assure you, making hate-websites is the most pathetic attempt I have yet to see. Don't they have anything better to do? Honestly, how much plus of a infant can they be? For the most part I find it completely humorous that people who hate Twilight would spend hours dedicating time toward...
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"Carlisle!" Edward yelled as soon as he reached the door even though it wasn't necessary. par that time Edward's entire family had appeared out of nowhere of course, and converged in the living room.
"What is it Edward?" Carlisle a dit in a worried tone.
"We have a problem." Edward simply said.
"What is it?" Emmett asked, unworried.
"Charlie knows everything, about us, about the pack, everything. I'm ashamed that I didn't see it sooner. Bella, I'm so sorry." Edward told his family, and his bride-to-be. Who had this blank, morose look on her face.
"What do toi mean?" Esme asked.
"I mean, that,...
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What would happen if Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and the gang went to Forks? Well I imagine it might go something like this. . .

"Oh come on Giles, toi can't be serious." Buffy moaned.
"I kind of like it here." Spike mentioned.
"Shut up Spike." Buffy said.
"Well I'm just sayin' pet, this place is perfect. Almost always no sun, and that means no bursting into flame. Which is a plus if toi ask me love."
"Lord, Spike nobody cares." Buffy started. "You can déplacer here for all we care."
"If toi two are going to behave like children the whole time we are here, then I'll send toi both back to Sunnydale."...
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yea i made the titre to be something a little less opinionated, and plus open to other peoples opinon. so if toi agree, say why, and if not, give some examples of her good side! all i did was her bad side cuz thats my opinion. :)

These are from the first chapter of Eclipse.

pg. 14-Charlie to Bella"You're hurting Jake's feelings, avoiding him like this."
response: HOLY CRAP listen to your father Bella!!! toi have got a serious problem, and toi are hurting poor Jake in the process! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?!?!?!? GET..A..LIFE, and leave Jacob out of it

pg. 17-in Bella's mind"I wrenched the door out...
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Well I tried to post this in the link section but it just didnt work so I figured that I would put it here...

Here is a link to a Twilight/New Moon extra- Being Jacob Black....

It is the story of Jacob from when we meet him first in Twilight until the end of New Moon. It is interesting.


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