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Discussion regarding Twilight vampires and reply to Drisina at link

First Part:
The thing is Drisina, one cannot par fiat change a legend to whatever one very well pleases with. vampires have been in mythology from the 17th century, e.g. Countess Elizabeth Bathory who alledgedly drank her female servants blood to stay young.

So what Stephenie Meyer does is that she takes the vampire-myth, and discards the gorier details and imperfections, replaces them with what she thinks they should be and et voila, we have Edward Cullen.

Now I shall dissect why most people think its a bad thing to do. Recall that I a dit the vampire-mythology has been in existence since the 17th century, and have been established in its modern form par Bram Stoker and his likes in the 19th century.
It is per the standards of social inertia that conservatism will then be dominant. After all, the same story has been in circulation since the 19th century, do toi not think that people will get used to that prevailing model? Yes, I applaud change but such large a change will often be the cause of extreme responses.
par analogy, who here would dislike the idea of calling Jedi's mechanical drones which rolls - literally rolls - around the universe in big starships? Who here would dislike the idea of the étoile, star Trek Enterprise being a large l’espace limousine and only a large l’espace limousine?
I would, I think most fans of both étoile, star Wars and étoile, star Trek would deplore that model.
The thing is Drisina, Meyer's vampires are up against 400 an old ingrained traditions that has permeated every social class, do toi not believe that most people will dislike that idea and criticise it?
It's related to out-group hostility Drisina, anything unfamiliar will be first disliked then if rigorously tested and proven that the general population likes it after a large amount of time, it will be received as tradition.

seconde Part:
Yes, I hate out-group hostlity and xenophobia, but it is only some forms of it that I hate, it is those forms that have been hijacked from their original purposes. Originally, the purpose of xenophobia is exemplified by:
"A human meets one unfamiliar entity out on the African continent some 10 million years ago, he ou she does not know this entity. For all that her ou she knows, this entity may carry a lethal disease ou is a dangerous animal, in which both cases he ou she will die. Death for the selfish genes in his ou hers body is monumentally bad, for they want to propagate and prosper, if the host they reside in dies, then there will be no chance of propagation, therefore they programme the host to avoid unfamilliar situations just in case those situations are dangerous."
Now because we are humans and because those same selfish genes have granted us the development of a moral and thinking brain, to which we are definitely solely possessing, we can override the evolutionary obstacles that is out-group hostility. Therefore it is possible for us to do things not to the liking of our in-group.

But what is the good part of "xenophobia" then? When we meet the same kind of people around our offices, read the same stuffs we usually read, does nothing out of the ordinary of our lives, we have stability.
Now one will probably infer that a normal life is pretty bleak. But lets give it a thought, if everyone did something new everyday, how long will it be before everything is descended into chaos? For a life without stability is inherently self-destructive. Balance, ladies and gentlemen, is my obvious conclusion.

Part Three and conclusion:
How did I start with discussing Meyer's vampires and transgress into a dissection of xenophobia people? xD
I conclude that what Meyer did was one of the bigger leaps of vampire mythology we have observed lately. But it is, at least for now, too vast a leap to be successfully appreciated. One does not impose vast flying changes to a mythology without dire consequences ladies and gentlemen. Balance, as I have noted earlier is the middle way. We cannot have a stagnant vampire mythology, because everything will be dull after ten years, but we cannot have vast changes all the time too, because after ten years we will be asking ourselves questions like: "What is a vampire?" Now would that be a good thing? Reply!
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posted by DivyaHarry
The Cullens are weird. Not in a vampiric sense but in common sense. They are trying to stay camouflaged but they keep failing. Lets review, shall we?

1. They go to high school over and over again. They try to blend in with the other non-sparkly, non-Adonis(y), non-vampiry and nonsensical humans. Aside from this, they pout in the cafeteria during lunch hour. Why? They could just eat their lunch elsewhere. They don't eat, so it's unlikely that no one has noticed them not eating.

2. High school is a crowded place. People keep bumping into each other at some point. Let's say the Cullens are very...
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I see a lot of Twiight fans arguing the same points over and over again, and frankly, they have no idea what they're talkinng about.

First I'd like to point out:

Some Twilight fans are saying that they are confused with Harry Potter because they haven't read the livres and the films don't explain clearly enough. Well, guess what, that does not make Twilight better than Harry Potter, it is not out fault toi haven't read Harry Potter. When we argue Harry Potter vs. Twilight I was under the impression that we were including both livres and movies, not just the movies. So the fact that your confused...
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I suspect I'm not the only one, am I? XD...... Anyways, toi know you're obsessed with Bellatrix when....
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1. toi throw away all of your hairbrushes.

2. toi wear at least some black every day.

3. toi rip your clothes on purpose.

4. toi call people toi don't like "filthy mudbloods".

5. toi yell "CRUCIO!" at people when toi get mad.

6. toi carry knives on your person

7. Your desktop background and screensaver are of Bellatrix.

8. Whenever you're typing a word that starts with a "B" ou an "L", toi accidentally type out a Bellatrix ou a Lestrange instead.

9. toi think her birthday should...
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I found this online. It's a real conversation a bookstore employee apparently had with a Twilight fan. It didn't happen to me. I found it funny, thought toi guys might too.

(A customer in her late teens approaches me in the bookstore.)
Customer: “Hey, do toi guys sell the Twilight books?”
Me: “Yes, they’re right over there.”
Customer: “Have toi read them?”
Me: “Yes, I have.”
Customer: “Didn’t toi just l’amour them?!”
Me: “Well, actually, they aren’t really my type of book, so–”
Customer: *suddenly furious* “Are toi f***ing serious?! These are the best livres ever written! I’m going to tell Edward to come and bite toi and drink all your blood!”
Me: *backing away* “Have a nice day, ma’am…”
posted by ilovereading
I was thinking about difference in Harry Potter and Twilight background and this is what I concluded. Enjoy!

Knowledge of magical beings not soo very far from their backyards
Harry Potter: As I can get from HP livres and The Tales of Beedle the Bard, wizarding world was known to Muggles, but because of witch hunt and victims of it in both sides, wizard decided to go underground and not to be commonly know to people. They don`t use spells in front of Muggles and if sombody does manage to discover their secret, they erase their memory.
However, there are exeptions. Families of Mugle-borns ofcourse...
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posted by june13
were are toi harry asked ron over here can't toi see me am right in front of you.
no i cant see toi it's so drak a cat even could not see in here.

hah ron very funny, lets try to find a light swicht for toi can see.
ron i found one. well then turn it one then
i am don't worry

boo am going to suck your owls blood.
right then the sun came toungt the window and then edward begin to spark

look harry this vamiper sparks how sad is that.

ron is he waring girls cothing
yay i think he is

no am not but am in l’amour with a human girl

harry and ron at the same time laghed them selfed silly

and that's the end of this fine story
THIS IS JUST MY PERSONALL OPINION, FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK, NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF TWILIGHT FANS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!

Thank you.

Just so toi know, this is a Twilight fan speaking.

Twilight may NOT be the best book ever, i didnt say that it was (keep that in mind), when i read it, i saw alot of flaws, like in breaking dawn, Meyer made it clear that vamps cant inject sperm, and yet, somehow Bella got pregnant. I've read this article par XDRoseLuvsHP, and i totaly agree. I believe that People like Twilight plus thatn HP because it...
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For all of toi who don't know this, but I am an ex-Twilight fan. This my own personal opinion based on my personal experience with the series. For all of the Twilight fans who may be lire this right now, toi have been warned. So here I go:

When in the course of normal, non-brainwashed leader events, it becomes necessary to dissolve the addiction of the highly “popular” teen-craving novel which have been oppressive to the efforts to differentiate the normal and the abnormal fantaisie to which people, generally females, dreamed of, decent respect to the creativity based on the author's dream...
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posted by ilovereading
Like a lot of other Antis, I was at first a Twilight fan.

I got into lire when I was 8 years old. First real book I have read was Harry Potter. Since than, I have read loads of fiction - romance, science fiction, fantasy, historical novels...
I liked some of them and disleked others. With years, I learnd to tell why and found my favoris - fantaisie novels.

My friend heard of upcoming Twilight movie, so she decided to read it. She recomended the book to me, so I said: "Heck, why not, it sounds interesing." I borrowed it from school bibliothèque and read it. I admit, I thought it was great, and I...
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