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Princesses Disney Who is plus projected onto and overanalyzed?

45 fans picked:
Elsa.
   67%
Aurora.
   33%
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avatar_tla_fan picked Elsa.:
I wonder if this one will get reported and deleted like that other poll. /:
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avatar_tla_fan picked Elsa.:
Just got a message from fanpop saying it's been flagged two times! =______= and wow, about 30 seconds after I posted the poll?
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audreybrooke picked Elsa.:
ABSOLUTELY.
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KataraLover picked Aurora.:
Here's an idea when it gets flagged, just respond to those messages and the poll won't disappear. That's what I do when my stuff gets flagged for no good reason.

Anyway, both of them are over-analyzed! People try to make Aurora seem like a deep and complex character, even though she's far from it. Just because she thinks about her dreams doesn't make her some kind of intelligent expert on dreams. By that logic, that means that I'm an intelligent expert on dreams too! People also say that she cried when she received her crown because the pressure of starting a new life and accepting the duties as a princess was too much for her. WHAT THE HELL? What on Earth would have lead to thinking that? The fairies basically said it was because of that boy she met and in a deleted scene it showed that Aurora said it was what she was upset about. There is absolutely nothing that would indicate that she's upset about her new duties! It's all because she can't be with the man she met! She has little to no character or personality. She's a standard and generic fairy-tale princess. People try to analyze every single little detail about her like it's some kind of deep and meaningful thing when she does nothing of the sort. I don't get it AT ALL! So Odette from The Swan Princess has a lot more screen-time and demonstrates meaningful things like refusing to give into the villain and wanting to be loved for more than her looks, but she's considered to have no personality but Aurora does have personality? WHAT THE HELL? Odette is a more fleshed out and developed character than Aurora! But I digress. Aurora has done nothing, other than giving up being with the man she just met to be a princess with duties, that could be considered deep or complex.

Elsa is also a very flat character that people over-analyze as a deep and complex character when she's nothing of the sort. She's a simple character that's very easy to understand. She's afraid of her powers, loves her sister, hides her powers, and runs away from her problems until her sister fixes them for her. That's it! Her anxiety and love for her sister is all there is to her. I've been hearing that knowing little about her is what makes her interesting and complex and that is a very poor excuse in my opinion. A complex character is someone that is hard to understand because of their complicated psychological mind. Elsa is a very easy person to understand. Female characters like Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Regina from Once Upon A Time, and Helga from Hey Arnold are what I call female characters that are complex. They went through horrible parenting, want love, treat people they care about badly because they don't know how to love, and don't know the difference between right and wrong. Azula has even had hallucinations of her mother. Knowing about a character and their past is what makes them complex because you understand what they went through. What makes them complex is because of their messed up past, you don't know decisions they're going to make because they never knew what was right or wrong. Elsa isn't a complicated character at all, just poorly written. People also say that her parents abused her but they really didn't at all. They were worried that people would fear and hurt her because of her powers and tried to protect her. An abusive parent wouldn't do something like that. Don't get me wrong, they're horrible and stupid parents, but they're not abusive. They never hit her or verbally abused her. They also try to say that she's hard-working when she doesn't work hard at all! She never tries to fix her mistakes and just runs away from them. People just want to project themselves onto her because she's a blank slate.
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shanyuisboss picked Aurora.:
Even some of the biggest Aurora fans on this club said she was overexaggerted. I Somebody here actually called Aurora intelligent. It's one thing to call her clever, but her every movement is overanalyzed and calling her intelligent is exactly what I mean. She isn't necessarily dumb, but she didn't do anything that makes her intelligent.
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avatar_tla_fan picked Elsa.:
Thank you about the poll flagging, KataraLover.
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Both. Aurora here and Elsa everywhere else.
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audreybrooke picked Elsa.:
KataraLover, you need to calm down. Sorry, but I'm really sick of how you aggressively push your opinions on everyone. There's a difference between stating your opinion and forcing it down all of our throats constantly. Your constant use of profanity and aggressive language is really troubling, in particular.

Please have some respect for others' opinions and tone it down a little. We all know how you feel about the princesses, okay? There's no need to be so belligerent all the time.
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KataraLover picked Aurora.:
I'm brutally honest and I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
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audreybrooke picked Elsa.:
Being brutally honest is one thing. Not accepting other people's opinions and forcing yours on everyone is another thing entirely.
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KataraLover picked Aurora.:
If it seems like I'm forcing my opinions onto everyone, that wasn't my intention. I'm merely saying that I don't understand where people are getting these ideas about these two characters at all. But just because I think those positive things about Aurora that people over-analyze about doesn't mean that there aren't things I defend about her. In the ancient Fanpop days people thought Aurora was spoiled and a snob. Why they thought that I had no idea. There was nothing that would have implied that because she did chores and wasn't rude to anyone. Even though at the time she was my least favorite Disney Princess, I did defend her on things like that. I still stand by the comment I made but I did not intend to force my opinion onto anyone, so I will apologize for making it seem that way.
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MelStrachey picked Elsa.:
I think that its a more serious problem with Elsa. She is projected onto more than Aurora is in my opinion, but, to be completely honest, I don't see what the big deal is. If you look at most of the characters in children's media, especially the female "roll-models" or heroines, they are all rather bland and flat, or have very stereotypical personalities to better allow people to project themselves onto the character. These two have that going on to an extent. Out of the two Aurora has the more apparent personality and I find her more likeable.
What I find the most interesting about Elsa is that she is being projected onto so much. When you watch the movie, it is clear that were are supposed to pity her and relate with her sister, Anna. However, people are projecting themselves onto her instead, which was clearly not the creators original intent.
Moreover, people use her very limited screen time and one song to deduce some very extreme conclusions about her, such as she represents part of the LGBTQIA community, she has depression and many other ways that people project themselves onto her.
Aurora does not have the same effect. I don't see people pushing themselves into her character the way they do to Elsa because, whether people like to admit it or not, she has more of a defined character than Elsa does.
Yes, both are over analyzed, but, if you take a step back, ALL of the princesses are. That is the whole reason for this clubs existence, to analyze and discuss the characters we know and love from our childhoods and our future children's childhoods.
SO, getting heated up over someone over analyzing a character just because you don't see what they are talking about is just closed-minded. Instead of starting a fire, just try to keep an open mind and try to understand the opposite side's position instead of completely writing them off as idiotic.
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MaidofOrleans picked Elsa.:
I agree with MelStrachey!
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Sk8er__grl picked Aurora.:
"Yes, both are analyzed, but, if you take a step back, ALL of the princesses are. That is the whole reason for this clubs existence, to analyze and discuss the characters we know and love from our childhoods and our future children's childhoods.' Yes, yes, YES. I agree completely MelStrachey. All of the princesses are analyzed. THAT is the point. If we didn't analyze the princesses, there would be no point for this club and that would be rather boring know wouldn't it? We can all sit around and talk about how cool mermaids are and how we wished we had the princesses awesome hair, but instead we come here so we can discuss characters, look deep into their personality, and explain why they are all our favorites. I feel like this poll (and some of the comments here) are basically passive aggressively punching the fans of Aurora and Elsa in the gut and saying our opinions are wrong, because we see these two princesses in a different way then they do. To each their own, right?
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audreybrooke picked Elsa.:
^ Thank you for that last part, Sk8er__grl!

Also, I agree with MelStrachey.
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LupinPrincess picked Aurora.:
Really?? Really?? At least elsa has development and a crap load more screen time! This is just ridiculous frozen hate
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princesslullaby picked Elsa.:
It's really close, but elsa is projetted onto more broadly. People interpret her as basically anything they can think of
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^^Or anything that the audience can relate to her (feelings of isolation- her powers are treated in a very vague manner so they could be good metaphors of almost everything).

TBH this is one of the best clubs on Fanpop. I love the analysis aspect of this club and how we're always debating and questioning stuff (in comparison to other clubs that are basically "who's your favorite character?" "what's your favorite hair color"- which aren't really...that open to debate and analysis as this club does).
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PeacefulCritic picked Aurora.:
I did comment once I remembered what I said in the past but, then when I did MelStrachey and Sk8er__grl already made better comments about how offensive this poll really is.
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haynay24 picked Elsa.:
Both are
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zanhar1 picked Elsa.:
@kataralover I was scrolling down to leave my comment and my eyes found Female characters like Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender, Regina from Once Upon A Time. I think I should seek help for my obsessive nature.

Anyhow I do kind of feel like Elsa's a bit over-analyzed. But what isn't at this point? When you're on tumblr you see all the analysis. And is it really a bad thing? When you like a character it's fun to think up theories and headcanons. It's fun to get creative. I'm gonna be honest and say it can get a bit annoying when people do all this far-fetched analysis...like so far fetched it's ridiculous. Which again, honestly, I see happen quite a bit with Elsa. However for the most part it's all good with me.
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KataraLover picked Aurora.:
@zanhar1 You can't help it. It's part of your villainess loving nature. Don't be ashamed. Embrace it!
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