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From a strictly moral point of view, what's your opinion on the death penalty?

I think it's absolutely wrong for the government to sentence people to death. Obviously, it's hypocritical, and I also think it's simply wrong to take someone's life for any reason. I don't care if the offender killed 1,000 people. It's still wrong to take his life. Life is all we have, and no one should take everything from someone. It's cruel. (Yes, I realize what I'm saying. The murderer took everything from his victims. But I don't think that justifies sentencing him to death.)

Remember people, we're talking in terms of morals and ethics only. :)
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Usui--takumi said:
I'm Against death penalty. Looking at the death penalty system in action, toi realize that the only purpose it serves is retribution ou revenge, it is seriously (and intrinsically) flawed in application and that there is a serious and continuing risk of executing innocent people. And, it costs much plus than life in prison.
130 people wrong fully convicted people were sentenced to death and were lucky to be exonerated and released, eventually. DNA, available in less than 10% of all homicides, can’t guarantee we won’t execute innocent people. If someone is convicted and later found innocent toi can release him from prison, but not from the grave.
The death penalty doesn't prevent others from committing murder. No reliable study shows the death penalty deters others. Homicide rates are higher in states and regions that have it than in those that don’t.
Life without parole, on the livres in 48 states, also prevents reoffending. It means what it says, and spending 23 of 24 hours a jour locked in a tiny cell is not a picnic. Life without parole costs less than the death penalty.
The death penalty is much plus expensive than life in prison, mostly because of the upfront costs of the legal process which is supposed to prevent executions of innocent people. (upfront = for the pre trial process and the trial itself.)
The death penalty isn't reserved for the worst crimes, but for defendants with the worst lawyers. It doesn't apply to people with money. When is the last time a wealthy person was on death row, let alone executed?
Families of murder victims are not unanimous about the death penalty. However, even families who have supported the death penalty in principal have testified that the drawn-out death penalty process is painful for them and that life without parole is an appropriate alternative.
Problems with speeding up the process. Over 50 of the innocent people released from death row had already served over a decade. Speed up the process and we will execute innocent people.Death penalty is not necessary. The life sentence is plus than sufficient to justify the acts of the convict, whatever his crime may have been. I know that the people that have been potentially hurts par the actions of the convict may seem that death penalty is suitable, but in any case it's not necessary.We don't live in barbaric societies anymore.Death penalty should only be a thing of the past now.
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Oh, wow, I didn't realize you'd answered three months ago, lol. I agree though, definitely. Execution methods like firing squads and electric chairs are especially barbaric. I can't believe they're even still legal in some places. -_-
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Damnnn, my emoticon got messed up! :/
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southern-belle said:
I think it's slightly hypocritical, but at the same time i would rather they be killed then set loose to kill multiple others. and i also think there should be harsher punishment for rapists and pedophiles. Now i acknowledge the fact that i might be a little biased seeing as a come from a family of judges lawyers and cops but toi asked for opinions and that's mine. (:
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If they wern't t killed the wouldn't be '' set loose ''. They'd be sentenced to life inprisonment.
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^ What he said.
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i agree w/ u totaly completly
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fly210 said:
I F the death penalty!
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Bond_Of_Fury said:
Well... I have mixed opinions.

If toi look at it, sentencing someone to death is like killing someone who killed. Putting it blunt, you'll be just like that killer.

On the other hand, if the person had killed 1000's of people, and devastated 1000's of families because of that, I'd say good riddance. But then, toi could also get five times a lifetime for killing 1000's of people.

Actually, and I'm even surprising myself with what I'm gonna say now, I think I don't care for the death sentence. If that person killed so many people, and the person gets a lifetime, so be it. If the person gets the death penalty, so bet it. Either way, we won't get to see that person again. I guess it's better him/her then me. True, that person is still human. But I bet the 1000 devastated families wouldn't think that way, and I would understand.
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So... toi just don't care what happens to the killer?
r-pattz posted il y a plus d’un an
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Depends. If it was a cold-hearted killer, who didn't care for who ou what he/she killed, then no. Maybe I'm just being childish though.
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PaisleyPark said:
I agree.

I think it's wrong.

Why would toi kill someone for killing someone else?

That's just stupid.

Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Agreed.
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Yep:]
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Claudia4599 said:
Would toi rather they spent their whole life in prison? I have not made up my mind for the death penalty.
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I think they're better off with life in prison without parole, yes.
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okay. As I a dit I haven't made up my mind yet.
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@r-pattz: Agreed.
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Lolly4me2 said:
In agree. Some sort of punishment is in order, cruelty all depending on the crime, but death shouldn't be wished on anyone. Nonetheless forced par the government. Living life in prison is better than living no life at all.
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So toi see death as a greater punishment than life in prison without parole?
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Hinata-Snow said:
I'm very mixed on this topic. I despise violence and death, and personally, if a person rots for their crime, and is tortured par it, I think that's better than putting them in a place where they can't feel guilty: death.

On the other hand, I don't think the grieving families care. They want the killer dead, cause the thought of the killer alive while their child is dead is worst than death to them. It's even worse if the killer is released and out and about while the victim is still six feet under. The family would want that person dead, and it's one less scum on earth.

I just don't know. I can't untangle myself on this topic.
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Yeah. It's not exactly a black and white issue. But do toi think that that family should have a say in what happens to the criminal? Like, does your opinion just differ depending on whose shoes toi stand in?
r-pattz posted il y a plus d’un an
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Ahh, muddy grayness. If someone killed my sis, I'd want the killer dead. I really would. Right now, though, I'd object to death penalty. Guess I'm just a hypocrite.
Hinata-Snow posted il y a plus d’un an
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Naw. *shrugs* Just emotions. They nuage our judgement. I see your point, though.
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GaGaBoi said:
I don't think any Human being has the right to take another's life, no matter what he/she may have done.


Besides, Living in prrison is alot worse than simply dying.

We don't have the Death Penalty here in the UK so no one finds a need to discuss these things. But yeah, that's pretty much all I think about it.
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Yup, agreed.
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Old prof...
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breebree446 said:
I agree (and applaud) everything toi just said...er, typed.

montrer killing is wrong par killing somebody. It makes perfect sense. <Sarcastic Eye-roll>
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Lol. Agreed. But that's the kind of fucked up society we live in.
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tellymaster said:
I'm really torn on this subject. I mean, let's say the murderer kills 5 people. That probably means he's going to kill again. Wouldn't it be better to sentence someone to death that has killed people than let another innocent life be taken?

But on the other hand, I really hate the idea of murder ou death penalty. I think it's cruel. It just shows that the government can do whatever they want, including taking a life. Maybe while he was in jail, he would learn not to kill people.

But if he got out of jail, he could still be insane and kill another person.

I just really don't know. Am I crazy? Did that make any sense at all? I doubt it.
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Well, the main alternative to the death penalty is life in prison without parole. The criminal likely wouldn't be killing anyone else, anyway, because they wouldn't have the opportunity.
r-pattz posted il y a plus d’un an
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I'm not sure when the book was written, but the movie was set in the 50's. It did have an effect on my opinion though.
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Alright, alright. I see why.
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samuraibond005 said:
I wrote an essay on this once for English. to sum it all up in a nutshell it is based on the eye for an eye concept. If someone takes a life then they do take everything that person has so it would only be fair to take just the same amount from them. Not only did a murderer take everything from the person murdered but they take something really important from many others. I call it all fair in my opinion, and for peaces sake kind of necessary. If the price of something becomes too high then people are less likely to risk it, this alone lowers the risk of murders.
And one plus thing, life imprisonment, who pays to keep a murderer alive for the rest of their miserable life in jail, the tax payers, and I for one do NOT want to pay my heard earned money to keep some murderer alive!
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I wasn't asking for cost, remember. Studies actually montrer that it costs plus to put someone on trial for their life and keep them on death row, but we won't get in to that. I was asking for morals... Have toi ever heard the saying "An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"?
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The cost kind of ties into the morals, is it moral to do this when it costs people who don't even care? And keeping murderers alive is like keeping alive a weed that keeps killing your garden. When compared to society some people are grass, some people are fleurs and some people are weeds, gardeners kill the weeds to keep the fleurs and herbe alive making a plus functional garden. Gardeners take lives as well all the time even though it's not human lives it is still lives none the less. This is probably a better example than the eye for an eye thing.
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thejokercard said:
It really depends on the crime. If someone were to steal something, obviously there's no reason to kill them for something like that. But if a person was to kill another ou even multiple people, then yes. Locking them up in prison for life won't change them. So yeah, I'm for death penalty
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...And the death penalty WILL change them? No, it just leaves them dead with no chance at all for change. If toi stick 'em in prison there is a chance they'd change.
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Too true
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adultswimperson said:
Well that depends on what kind of crime that person did, for me it's better for him/her to be sentenced to death rather then to live in jail for life if a person committed double murders, staying in jail won't change them.
What other option did toi have in mind if toi think taking another persons life is bad?
toi may not think it's a good idea but the authorities do, that's part of the criminal justice system and this has been going on for years since the old west when outlaws were hanged after being captured.
It's a part of life when somebody does a crime and they have to pay the price either way no matter how bad it is.
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BEST ANSWER!!!!!!! i agree w/ u 110%
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@jklilly56, Thank you.:)
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@jklilly56, Thanks.:)
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jklilly56 said:
Honestly, i think ur kinda being hiporcriacle abt tht yes its wrong to take someones life but how wuld u feel if a friend/family member was one of those victems? i think its ethical and considering that most of those wack jobs out there that think ITS FUN TO KILL PEOPLE probably DESERVE IT because i honestly doubt that any of them wuld ou do regret the awful injustice they hav done.
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toi think I'M being hypocritical? Wow. Just wow. Even if a family member of mine was killed, I still would not believe in capital punishment. -_-
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um ya because ur thinking in IF terms u dont actualy know wat its like thts my point
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like it matters if i can spell the word right ou not thats what spell check is for
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LadyL68 said:
I strongly belive this belongs in the débats spot


But whatever. I agree with you. It's wrong to take a life, period. It goes against everything America believes in, & makes the government no better than the person who killed someone.

But, there is an exception with me, for people like Hitler, Osama Bin Laden, Sadan Whosane, ect
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Love, toi spelled Husain wrong
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whatevahhh :P
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@LadyL68 MDR
Usui--takumi posted il y a plus d’un an
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How many people do I have to kill to deserve death penalty? If it's wrong to kill 1000000 people it's also wrong to kill 2 people.
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Dr_TorchwoodSH said:
Well, from a strictly moral point of view, it's not right to me. Yes, I know that most of the receivers of the penalty are cold-blooded murderers and pedophiles and sort of do deserve to die, but two wrongs do not make a right. Simply the fact that these people have committed these sins against nature doesn't mean that in turn our "oh so perfect and just" government has the right to commit yet another crime. It's a vicious cercle and it needs to stop. I'm so glad it's illegal in MA. And can toi imagine if it was found out later that the executed was innocent??? I, for one, could never EVER forgive myself for sentencing an innocent person to death.
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iluvsmj said:
well i don't think people deserve to die par the law. but i guess they need to.
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boolander25 said:
It seems kind of dumb to me for people to be sentenced to the death penalty. I think that jails should make the prisoner have to sit and think about what they did for the rest of their life and have them go crazy, which I can assume is worse than a quick death.
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Antelo said:
I don't really see any difference between death penalty and life imprisonment.
If toi had to spend the rest of your life in prison your life would be over, right?
toi just kill the criminal par time.
And actually life imprisonment is even plus inhumane because people get raped and beat up in prison.
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chocol8smiles said:
I don't think it's our place as humans to decide whether the life of another human is to end ou not.
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JaseKS said:
Long answer short: Where is the logic in stopping killings par killing?
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rapunzeleah123 said:
From a moral point of view…
I think it's wrong. Two wrongs don't make a right. Life in prison seems fair enough to me. Nobody deserves to be put to death par THE GOVERNMENT. I mean seriously.
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Rock8 said:
I don't support it.
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HeitsiTsegin said:
I think that it is much better than the alternative, life imprisonment.
just think, $22,000 per an for every person kept alive in jail for the rest of their lives, that money comes from tax payers, and what do the tax payers get? One living murderer who now wouldn't be able to make anything of his life as it is. So what is the point of keeping them in jail when all it does is waste money? Why would toi just let serial murderers loose again? The first costs $22,000 per year, the seconde could cost lives, and plus than one most likely. The only way to deal with a person like that that doesn't drain the money ou lives is to kill them, and I don't mean with a method as painful as an electric chair, as expensive as a lethal injection, ou as torturous as a hanging, but something simple and inexpensive and quick like a beheading.

I SERIOUSLY don't think it is very moral to take the taxpayers money just to keep someone alive that can't contribute to society anyway.
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darkwave said:
I agree with it in some cases...
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Qowl said:
Nothing
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BlindBandit92 said:
Honestly toi guys may call me heartless ou evil but if toi have 100% proof that that murderer is a douche and will people again AND if he killed them in horrific ways too? I say give him/her the death penalty. In some case I think the death penalty should be harsher depending on the crime. If a killer mutilated a baby and had sex with that child along with eating that baby (Gross I know but some people would do that.) I don't think he/she should have any mercy nor time to changes and like someone else has a dit if put them in jail, the government is using everyone's taxes to keep them alive so it's not like it's free. Some people need to burn in the deepest part of hell just for them for all the heinous things they did. Hitler would be one of them. Would toi give Hitler a life in a jail? When 6 MILLION people died? I say "fuck this" If I could I think I might've tried to kill Hitler to save some people. I see things in grays not necessarily black and white. I actuallly have no remorse when some people (Murderers get what's coming to them) because alot of times those people are sick fucks. IF a person kills out of self-defense then they do not deserve the death penalty but honestly global, ensemble I am for it in certain situations.

Killing a killer is like stealing from a pirate. Say the pirate has something EXTREMELY valuable and toi steal it to save someone,etc. toi a volé, étole but at the same time toi helped someone else. Would that be morally wrong? It's the same thing with killing a killer. If toi do that sometimes toi are actually able to save future people in the long run because that killer was dead. People that rejoindre the army. (Many times they are needed for a mission and they kill people but those people sometimes are terrorists and will harm the safety of others. If toi are so fixed on being against the death penalty. I can only conclude that toi have a very black and white view of thinking as for as moral terms.

I honestly believe the death penalty is needed for some cases.
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