First a rant then my question to anyone that can help.

Okay first off, I'm getting really sick and tired of some the people I work with, saying they know for SURE that being gay is a choice. Secondly, the people saying this are heterosexuals. How in the hell do they know if it is ou not? I'm straight and I know I'm the last damn person on the face of the planet to come to that conclusion. It's so egotistical to think that way IMO.

Anyway, even though I KNOW that being gay is NOT a choice. I have heard that there is actual scientific proof that support the fact that some people are born completely homosexual. I also know that the majority of people are born hereditly bi sexual and there is facts to support this as well.

So, my question is, does anyone have any liens ou information supporting the scientific facts that homosexuals do not choose to be gay ou proof that they were in fact born gay?

The reason I'm asking for this is because I want to throw it in their faces. They think they are so sure of themselves, but how can toi if toi are not in these situations. It doesn't make since to me.

Thanks so much :)
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Oh and if there are any articles on here too that would be awesome. Also, sorry if this was asked before.
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Cinders said:
I'm thinking about taking and expanding my long commentaire link into an article. I'll keep toi posté on that endeavor.

Also, check out stuff published par the Kinsey Institute. They have a lot of information on this subject.

Lastly, and I don't know if this is specifically about choice, but a récent study proves that link. I know, imagine that, it's like proving there's actually a Big Foot! Now all we have to do is capture the elusive bisexual FEMALE and exploit her personal sexual preferences to prove that she exists. *rolls eyes.*
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Thanks so much. I'll read what toi got so far. Do keep me posté for sure. :)
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writer67 said:
we all strive to find an equal, l’amour is non judgemental, and true love, many would be better off being born blind n mute. people complain and judge for they are not happy unless they can throw a stone,as they too are a tad gay yet are to embarrased. get em drunk,an they will change, yet they will stay closeted. as to sientific proof. if they were naked, they would not bve able to tell who touched them along their groin, they quiver in anticipation, look at rocky horror ,oh do not touch oh do not oh do ohhhhhhh! some people l’amour to put in their opinion,but love, wiow thats powerfull, true love. being gay, is supposed to mean your happy, a tri likes to try, a bi likes both,i l’amour my wife to talk about trying new things,but am wary as honestly i know id enjoy,what my wife provides for us in the name of love.and yes toi are a good person, just fed up with the games and the bullshit,what happened to being gay, has it become plus of a dirtier waord than sex? good on ya. those people dont know any diiferent, let em go , toi are the bigger person, toi will find your equal,happy thoughts, and may peace be with you;-]
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reminisce said:
Here toi are. I for one dislike when (idiot) people claim sexuality is a choice.

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Thanks so much.
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Xeginy said:
That whole débats is so pointless. Does it matter if your sexual orientation is a choice? Does that make your orientation less important?

Rather than trying to present your colleagues with a scientific study, I would suggest telling them that that, yes, perhaps homosexuality probably IS a choice. Of course, then so is heterosexuality. And bisexuality. And so on and so forth. There is no "correct" orientation. We simply choose what feels right, based on where we are in our lives. And that's it. They just don't get it because they never had to "choose" to be heterosexual. It was so normalized they never realized there were plus options.

Seriously, though, try not to get into that kind of débats with people. 9 times out of 10, they're not open to having any kind of alternative opinion about anything. Hand them a scientific study, and they'll dismiss it as "bad science." Tell them a personal story, and they'll just insist that you're wrong. They're full of it, so don't waste your time on them.
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I agree that it shouldn't matter - but it does because as long as those who oppose it can claim its a choice, they can also claim they are condemning the "choice" and not the individual, which helps them neatly separate the two. But they can't say, for example, they don't like the fact that someone is BLACK but they like the individual, because being black is part of who that person is, part of their identity. So is being gay. And until the myth about sexuality being a choice is expelled, they will always be able to justify their disapproval par claiming to not like the "choice" to be gay, because people have control over the choices they make, but not who they are. And that's why it matters.
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The people who argue that "being gay is a choice, and it's a bad choice" are just as likely to condemn a person of color for jouer la comédie too (insert stereotype here) instead of "normal" (meaning white, ou what they think of as "white.") Because, yes, there are a lot of things we can't control, but we can control our actions. People who are essentially anti-gay do not in fact believe that sexuality is a choice. What they believe is that HOMO- ou BIsexuality is a choice. What I was trying to say in my commentaire is that if sexuality is a choice, then ALL sexuality is a choice, including heterosexuality. I don't think that developing this cultural mandate that sexuality is intrinsic and unchangeable is that healthy. It seems better to simply say that ALL sexuality is a choice, and people make the best choice for themselves.
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I understand your irritation on the fighting and arguing. But, I'm not going to just give up on the assumption that EVERYONE that has an opposed opinion will be unreasonable in just considering the facts. Some people can surprise you. But, If anythng though, if it doesn't change their opinion ou view, I myself will have the information. I neglected to mention that above...lol sorry.
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kissthespider26 said:
I've read the book 'Is it a choice, réponses to the most frequently asked questions about gay and lesbian people' par Eric Marcus, it's really good, and it covers EVERYTHING.
It has stuff about: coming out, family roles, politics, and much more, including: How do toi know if you're gay ou lesbian? What should toi do if your child is gay ou lesbian? Do gay parents raise gay children? If toi think a friend is gay ou lesbian, what should toi say? Why do gay men and women want to get married? What does the Bible say about homosexuality?

I got it out from my public bibliothèque (I l’amour the looks on their faces when I get out these books, heehee) so if I were you, I'd check this out. And it IS non-fiction, it's a HarperSanFrancisco book, and it's written par a gay man. I really hope this helped, I hate the idea of toi being harrassed par thos narrow-minded pricks. toi go, honey!
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Thank toi so much. I will most def check it out for sure. Well it's not so much an harrassment. I'm just tired of them being so SURE of themselves about something they know nothing about. They use the bible as their stand point and half the time most don't even know for sure what the passages mean. Seeing how there are so many damn sects to Christianity, because they can't agree on anything.
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demonthief said:
they think my dads bi-sexual (don't ask) and im bi. I didn't choose 2 B. I just noticed 1 jour that i had a desire of both sexes.
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Phantomxx said:
They don't understand. Don't worry! People don't always know (Even if they have a briefcase, I just learned that) They "believe" what they want to. But like Heterosexual people. They didn't just choose. They were born like that.
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