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Fanpup says...
I remember visiting this website once...
It was called OUR MARILYN MONROE
Here's some stuff I remembered seeing:
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She officially died on August 4th 1962 but was declared dead on the 5th. She was 36 years old.
"I was born according to the records (and my birth certificate) Norma Jeane Mortenson, approximately nine thirty in the morning on June 1, 1926, at Los Angeles General Hospital [now County University of Southern California Medical Center]…. My grandmother was something-all the boys were after her. She was from Dublin, Ireland, you know, where all the girls are pretty. Her family name was Hogan. My grandfather? He came from Scotland and I remember, as strange as it seemed, she spoke with a slight Scottish brogue. I remember it sounded nice, sort of musical. My father’s father, my grandfather, I was told, was born in Haugesund, Norway. He and my grandmother met in Los Angeles after the First World War. My mother once told me my father died in an accident when I was quite young. My father wasn’t married to my mother when I was born. In fact, he left my mother when he heard from her that I was on the way. His name: Stanley Gifford. I was their love child.” - Marilyn Monroe to George Barris, 1962
Yes, however she darkened it as it was almost skin colour. In some of her movies, such as Some Like It Hot, her beauty spot actually moves and you can just about see her real mole.
At 5 foot 6 (as stated to Georges Belmont in 1960) Marilyn’s weight was between 115 and 121 pounds which is approximately 8.2 - 8.7 stone for the majority of her adult life. During her pregnancies her weight changed with her top weight being up to 140 pounds or 10 stone.
Studio Measurements: 37-23-36 (inches), 93.9 – 58.4 – 91.4 (centimeters)
Dressmaker Measurements: 35-22-35 (inches), 88.9 – 55.8 – 88.9 (centimeters)
Posts regarding Marilyn\'s measurements can be found here.
Actors: John Barrymore, Marlon Brando, Charlie Chaplin, Joan Crawford, Clark Gable, Greta Garbo, Cary Grant, Jean Harlow, Ginger Rogers and Richard Widmark.
Food: Cavier. Marilyn often ate Italian foods (especially whilst married to Joe DiMaggio), steak, lamb chops, hamburgers, hot dogs and eggs.
Music: Louis Armstrong, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra and Mozart, Beethoven.
Film performances: Asphalt Jungle and Don’t Bother to Knock.
459 E Rhode Island St Hawthorne, CA 1926-32 Los Angeles Orphans Home 815
4524 Vista Del Monte St. Sherman Oaks, CA 1942
Studio Club 1215 N Lodi St Hollywood, CA 1946-47
El Palaccio Apts. 8491-8499 Fountain Ave West Hollywood, CA1947-48
Bel Air Hotel 701 Stone Canyon Rd Beverly Hills, CA 1948
Beverly Carlton Hotel 9400 W Olympic Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1948
Studio Club 1215 N Lodi St Hollywood, CA 1948-49
1309 Harper Ave. West Hollywood, CA 1950-51
Beverly Carlton Hotel 9400 W Olympic Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1951
1121 HilIdale Ave. West Hollywood, CA 1952
Beverly Carlton Hotel 9400 W Olympic Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1952
Bel Air Hotel 701 Stone Canyon Rd Beverly Hills, CA 1952
Outpost Estates 2393 Castilian Dr Hollywood Hills, CA 1952
Beverly Hills Hotel 9641 W Sunset Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1952-53
Voltaire Apartments 1424 N Crescent Heights West Hollywood, CA 1954
The Milton Greene Home Fanton Hill Rd Weston, CT 1954-55
Waldorf Astoria Hotel 301 Park Ave New York, NY 1955
Sutton Place Apartment 2 Sutton Pl New York, NY 1955-56
Parkside House Estate Egham, England 1956
Amagansett Retreat Amagansett, Long Island, NY 1957-58
Beverly Hills Hotel 9641 W Sunset Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1958-60
Beverly Hills Hotel 9641 W Sunset Blvd Beverly Hills, CA 1961
Did Marilyn sleep with her agent Johnny Hyde?
Did Marilyn meet Audrey Hepburn/James Dean/Elvis Presley?
Marilyn never said he did. He definitely lost his temper the night of the skirt blowing scene for The Seven Year Itch but looking at photographs of Marilyn taken the day after that scene, there is no evidence to suggest he was violent as there are no bruises or marks.
No. She stated in My Story "A man who kissed me once had said it was very possible I was a lesbian because I apparently had no responsd to males - meaning him. I didn’t contradict him because I didn’t know what I was. There were times even when I didn’t feel human and times when all I could think of was dying. There was also the sinister fact that a well-made woman had always thrilled me to look at. Now having fallen in love, I knew what I was. It wasn’t a lesbian. The world and its excitement over sex didn’t seem crazy. In fact, it didn’t seem crazy enough.”
No, again in My Story, she discusses her encounter with Joan:
"I met Joan Crawford at Joe Schenck’s house. She was an impressive woman. I admired her during dinner. I hoped that when I was her age I would keep my looks as well as she had.
Some movie stars don’t seem like stars when you meet them, and some seem more like stars off the screen than on. I don’t know which type is better, but Miss Crawford was definitely the latter type. She was as much the movie star at Mr. Schenck’s table as she could have been electrifying a courtroom drama—- even a little more.
I was pleased to see I had made an impression on Miss Crawford. She said to me after dinner. “I think I could help you a great deal if you would let me. For instance that white knitted dress you’re wearing is utterly incorrect for a dinner of this kind.” It was the only good dress I owned. I wore it evenings as well as daytimes when I was going any place important, and I cleaned it myself everyday. I looked at Miss Crawford’s beautiful evening gown and understood what she meant.
"Taste" Miss Crawford went on, "is every bit as important as looks and figure." She smiled very kindly at me and asked, "Will you let me help you, my dear?"
I said I was flattered to have her offer to. We made a date to meet Sunday morning in church. It turned out Miss Crawford and I went to the same church.
After the church service Miss Crawford said as we met coming out, “I’m so glad to see you. But you musn’t come to church in flat heels and a gray suit with black trimming. If you wear gray you must wear different gray tones, but never black.”
It was my only suit, but there was no sense defending it on that ground.
"Would you like to come to my house with me?" Miss Crawford asked. I said I’d like to very much, and it was arranged that I should follow her car in mine.
I was excited at what I thought was going to happen. Miss Crawford, I felt pretty sure. was going to offer me some of her old ball gowns and ensembles that she’d grown tired of. The house was very beautiful and elegant. We had lunch in the kitchen with Miss Crawford’s four children and a beautiful white poodle. After lunch Miss Crawford asked me to come upstairs to her room.
"Brown would look very good on you," she said. "I must show you the things I’ve been knitting."
She showed me a number of knitted dickies in different shades of brown and explained that they were to be worn under different shades of brown suits.
"The main thing about dressing well," Miss Crawford explained, "is to see that everything you wear is just right—that your shoes, stockings, gloves and bag all fit the suit you’re wearing. Now what I would like you to do is to make a list of all the clothes in your wardrobe. amd I’ll make a list of all the things you need to buy and see that you buy the right things."
I didn’t say anyting. I usually didn’t mind telling people I was broke and even trying to borrow a few dollars from them to tide me over. But for some reason I couldn’t tell Miss Crawford that she had seen my wardrobe in full —the incorrect white knitted dress and the wrong gray suit.
"It’s so easy not to look vulgar," Miss Crawford assured me, when I was ready to leave. "Do make out a list of all your things and let me guide you a bit. You’ll be surprised at the results and so will everyone else."
I don’t know why I called Miss Crawford up again, except that I had promised I would. Maybe I was still hoping she would present me with some of her discarded ball gowns. I think, also, I had some intention of telling her the truth about not being able to to buy any fancy clothes. But when I heard Miss Crawford’s voice on the phone, I had to start palavering as I’d done before. Had I made out that list of my wardrobe? No I hadn’t. That was very lazy of me. Yes, I knew. And I would make the list out in a few days and call her up again.
"Good," said Miss Crawford. I’ll be expecting to hear from you."
I didn’t call Miss Crawford again. In fact, the next time I heard from Miss Crawford was in the newspapers. This was a year later. I’d gone to work at 20th Century Fox again, and the Marilyn Monroe boom had started. I was all over the magazines and movie columns, and the fan mail at the studio was arriving in trucks.
Among the honors that were now showering on me was the privilege of presenting one of the Oscars to one of the Award winners at the Academy’s annual affair. I was frozen with fear the night of the Academy Award Ceremonies. I waited tremblingly for my turn to walk up to the platform and hand over the Oscar in my keeping. I prayed I wouldn’t trip and fall and that my voice wouldn’t disappear when I had to say my two lines. When my turn came I managed to reach the platform, say my piece, and return to my table without any mishap.
Or so I thought until I read Joan Crawford’s remarks in the morning papers. I haven’t saved the clippings, but I have sort of remembered what she said. She said that Marilyn Monroe’s vulgar performance at the Academy affair was a disgrace to all of Hollywood. The vulgarity, she said consisted of my wearing a dress too tight for me and wriggling my rear when I walked up holding one of the holy Oscars in my hand. I was so surprised I could hadly believe what I was reading. I called up some friends who had seen me at ceremony and asked them if it were true. They laughed. It wasn’t true, they said. They advised me to forgive a lady who had once been young and seductive herself.
I have written out this accurate account of one of my “feuds” because it is typical. The feuds are all started by someone whom I have mysteriously offended—always a woman. The truth is my tight dress and my wiggling were all in Miss Crawford’s mind. She obviously had been reading too much about me. Or maybe she was just annoyed because I had never brought her a list of my wardrobe.”
Promiscuity, in human sexual behaviour, is the practice of casual sex with multiple sexual partners. It is not known how many people Marilyn slept with therefore you cannot assume she slept with lots of people. Marilyn was a virgin when she was married at 16 years old. Jim Dougherty even said that Marilyn had been scared of sex. The only people that you can confirm she slept with are her three husbands and Yves Montand (although her half sister Berniece denies in her book My Sister Marilyn). There were worse celebrities than Marilyn when it came to sleeping around but none of them should be judged for their sexual habits.
"I was determined, no one was going to use me or my body—even if he could help my career. I’ve never gone out with a man I didn’t want to. No one, not even the studio, could force me to date someone. The one thing I hate more than anything else is being used. I’ve always worked hard for the sake of someday becoming a talented actress. I knew I would make it someday if I only kept at it and worked hard without lowering my principles and pride in myself."
"These wolves just could not understand me. They would tell me, ‘But Marilyn, you’re not playing the game the way you should. Be smart. You’ll never get anywhere in this business acting the way you do.’ My answer to them would be, ‘The only acting I’ll do is for the camera.’ I was determined, no one was going to use me or my body—even if he could help my career. I’ve never gone out with a man I didn’t want to. No one, not even the studio, could force me to date someone. The one thing I hate more than anything else is being used. I’ve always worked hard for the sake of someday becoming a talented actress. I knew I would make it someday if I only kept at it and worked hard without lowering my principles and pride in myself.”
It is incredibly possible that Marilyn slept with Johnny Hyde. They were increidbly close and she cared for him deeply. Here\'s what she said about their relationship:
"He not only knew me, he knew Norma Jeane too. He knew all the pain and all the desperate things in me. When he put his arms around me and said he loved me, I knew it was true. Nobody had ever loved me like that. I wished with all my heart that I could love him back… it was like being with a whole family and belonging to a full set of relatives.”
"He did all of this for love. Yet no matter how many times he proposed to her, Marilyn said no. She didn’t love him and she would not marry without love, even though saying yes would have made her a very wealthy woman… She also told Rupert Allan, “It would be ridiculous to pass myself off as Mrs. Johnny Hyde. I’d be taken less seriously than I am now.”
No. She stated in 1953, regarding being broke and receiving a call from a man who wanted to ‘help’ her:
"He gave details of what I would be expected to do. He was brutally frank and all I could think of to say was that he shouldn’t talk that way over a public telephone. I didn’t realize how silly that sounded until I hung up and then started to laugh."
Bill Pursel, who knew Marilyn when she started her career stated, “Wow! I don’t believe this for one moment! As far as I know this is a bunch of poppycock. I do know there were several women jealous of her after she became Marilyn Monroe and beside call girls earn bug money - I saw no evidence of this with her. I would put no credence at all in these rumours. It’s nothing but bilge…blather….hogwash…. someone’s cheap imagination. It sorta makes me angry, or can’t you tell? She wasn’t pregnant when I knew her; she she probably had several boyfriends over the years, but when these stories exaggerate the involvement into pregnancy or even intimacy they are way out of bounds. She had too much class to be so careless about who she dated. At least this is where I come from.”
This is backed up by agent Harry Lipton in an article from Motion Picture, May 1956. Marilyn had been offered gifts in exchange for sexual favours. Marilyn refused, turned to her agent and asked to leave the party. She cried on the way home asking, “What can I say to men like that, Harry?”. He replied with, “You’ll learn.”
Wednesday 4th October 1961 at a party at Peter Lawford’s home (brother-in-law to the Kennedy brothers) for a dinner party where Marilyn quizzed him about what he stood for. Marilyn made a spectacle of herself getting so drunk she had asked Bobby to drive her home. According to his press secretary, Edwin O’ Guthman, Bobby insisted that Guthman join him in taking Marilyn back to her apartment where he left her to recover.
Thursday 1st February 1962 at a party celebrating the Bobby’s goodwill tour of Japan at the Lawfords’ home Marilyn decided not to drink so much.
Guthman commented on the way Marilyn and Bobby were behaving that evening. Stating that there was not “the faintest overtone of romantic interest on his side or hers.” He later stated that “I travelled with Bobby, day and night for five years and I never saw him pay attention to anyone but his wife.” Milton Ebbins, who had escorted her there, also took her home.
Rumours began spreading after this second meeting which prompted Jean, Bobby’s sister, to write to Marilyn sarcastically stating “I undertsnad you and Bobby are the hot item!”. Which later was mistakenly passed off as being a serious observation. Jean later stated that it was “ridiculous” to take it other than a joke.
Wednesday 27th June 1962 Marilyn supposedly wanted Peter and Pat Lawford as well as Bobby to view her new home. After dinner at the Lawfords’ home the attorney general’s driver took her back to Fifth Helena Drive.
Eunice Murray, Marilyn’s housekeeper, stated that “they all came to look at the house. She certainly didn’t go sneaking around with Mr Kennedy or have a love affair with him!”
Saturday 19th May 1962 Marilyn was present to perform Happy Birthday for Bobby’s brother, John. After her world famous performance, Marilyn, the Kennedy’s and other stars went to the home of Arthur B. Krim, where the only photograph of Marilyn Monroe and the two Kennedy brothers was taken. Milton Ebbins took her home at 2am.
All other dates can be dispelled and proven to be incorrect. Should there be a date which you may believe Marilyn and Robert were together, please let me know and I will look into this for you.
“No serious biographer can maintain the existence of an affair between Marilyn and the Kennedys. All we can say for sure is that the actress and the President have met 4 times, between October 1961 and August 1962, and it was during one of those meetings, that they called to a friendly relation of Marilyn from a bedroom. Shortly after, Marilyn confided this sexual relation to her close relatives, insisting about the fact that their affair ended there”.
Although they may have only met face to face 4 times (according to Spoto) Marilyn Monroe and JFK did both attend the
April In Paris Ball 1957 (11th April). They were both with their spouses throughout this event.
Keith Badman believes that they met more than 4 occasions.He states Marilyn and Kennedy first met when Marilyn attended party held at Joe Kennedy’s home at Hyannis Port to thank Frank Sinatra for his support during the election, on
23rd and 24th September 1961 where Jaqueline Kennedy, Pat Newcomb and other guests were also present. According to the Gazette-Mail there was an unidentified guest which MAY have been Marilyn but this is by no means a confirmation.
Sunday 19th November 1961 where a 3 hour dinner party took place with the Lawfords and close friends and family of theirs. This is possible as Marilyn did spend a lot of time with the Lawford family.
5th December 1961 JFK was in New York to make an address at the National Football Banquet and Hall of Fame held at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York City. Marilyn supposedly met the President at a black tie party at the apartment of Fifi Fell. Marilyn had apparently arrived 2 hours late due to having her hair styled by Kenneth Battelle.
It is this night that is often connected to the “sex parties” which were thrown up in 1965. However, it was impossible for Marilyn and the other participants to leave the ‘invite only’ party to sneak away for an orgy. This file was created by J. Edgar Hoover whom was known to smear the reputation of those he disagrees with.
Saturday 24th March 1962 is the only possible date that Marilyn and JFK could’ve had a one night stand as it was a private gathering and it is the only one that can be documented by a reliable source. On this date, Marilyn and others including JFK had been invited to Bing Crosby’s home in Palm Springs. It as this occasion that she phoned Ralph Roberts and briefly discussed it however she only went into detail when the rumours began. She confided to him that it was the only time, and it wasn’t a big deal to either of them.
19th May 1962. As with Bobby, she was not taken home by John and spent almost the entire night with her former father-in-law Isadore Miller.
Confirmed boyfriends (not including husbands) : Bill Pursel, Frank Sinatra and Tommy Zahn. As for people she slept with please see Megan\'s answer:
Marilyn only slept with Yves Montand whilst being married (to Arthur Miller). Yves was also married at the time and they were both feeling incredibly lonely suring the filming of Let\'s Make Love. Marilyn even stated at a press conference that other than her husband and Marlon Brando, Yves Montands was the most attractive man she had met. Berniece Miracle (her half sister) believes that the affair never actually happened and that it was just a publicity stunt because "she (Marilyn) hated the idea of people sleeping around."
There is supposedly a tape of Marilyn performing oral sex. Now, why would a woman who was nervous about hr nude photographs allow something like this to happen. Either way, the man who paid $1.5 for it supposedly purchased it to ensure Marilyn’s privacy was kept. This video came from the son of an FBI agent. When Marilyn’s name and FBI come together, we know it’s a whole load of bull (from the angle of J. Edgar Hoover).
The “sex tape” images can be found here. If you think that looks like this then it would be a good idea to get your eyes tested (SORRY).
There is no record stating they were at any of the same events or any real photographic images proving so. Therefore it can be assumed they never met.
What awards did Marilyn win and what was she nominated for?
1951 - Henrietta Award: The Best Young Box Office Personality

1952 - Photoplay Award: Fastest Rising Star of 1952
1952 - Look American Magazine Achievement Award: Most Promising Female Newcomer of 1952
1953 - Golden Globe Henrietta Award: World Film Favorite Female.

1953 - Photoplay Award: Most Popular Female Star
1954 - Photoplay Award for Best Actress: for Gentlemen Prefer Blondes and How to Marry a Millionaire
1956 - BAFTA Film Award nomination: Best Foreign Actress for The Seven Year Itch
1956 - Golden Globe nomination: Best Motion Picture Actress in Comedy or Musical for Bus Stop
1958 - BAFTA Film Award nomination: Best Foreign Actress for The Prince and the Showgirl
1958 - David di Donatello Award (Italian): Best Foreign Actress for The Prince and the Showgirl
1959 - Crystal Star Award (French): Best Foreign Actress for The Prince and the Showgirl
1960 - Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame 6104 Hollywood Blvd.
1960 - Golden Globe, Best Motion Picture Actress in Comedy or Musical for Some Like It Hot
1962 - Golden Globe, World Film Favorite: Female
First contract with Fox, 1945, $75 per week
Promoting “Love Happy,” 1949, $100 per week
For “The Asphalt Jungle, ” 1950, $350 per week. $1050 total
Second Fox contract, 1951, $500 per week with semiannual increase up to $1500
For “Gentlemen Prefer Blondes,” 1953, $1250 per week
For “River of No Return, There’s No Business Like Show Business, and The Seven Year Itch,” 1954 – 1955, $1500 per week
Next Fox contract, 1956, $100,000 fee plus $500 per week expenses
For “Some Like It Hot,” 1959, $100,000 fee plus 10% of the profits
For “The Misfits,” 1961, $300,000 fee plus 10% of the profits
For “Something’s Got To Give,” 1962, $100,000 fee. It was discovered that she would be rehired (after being sacked from the film) for $1 million.
Marilyn suffered from anxiety and therefore found it difficult coming to set on time which caused many frustrations with her colleagues. However she also liked the attention. She stated to Ben Hecht, “I have many bad social habits. People are always lecturing me about them. I am invariably late for appointments—sometimes as much as two hours. I’ve tried to change my ways but the things that make me late are too strong—and too pleasing…I’m giving Norma Jean treat… People are waiting for me. People are eager to see me. I’m wanted. And I remember the years I was unwanted.”
The Prince and the Showgirl, known in the film as The Sleeping Prince, was filmed in England whilst Marilyn and Arthur were on honeymoon. Colin Clark was the third assistant director who kept a diary about his work on the set. This was published a book called The Prince, The Showgirl and Me in 1996. There was no mention of a relationship.
In 2000, following the success of his first book, Colin released a second book called My Week With Marilyn.
There was never any mention of this affair by ANYONE before this book. The film’s sources are summed up well by The Guardian:
"Historically, the film’s main problem is that its source for the alleged Clark-Monroe liaison is Clark’s diary. In the film’s key sequence, Monroe takes too many pills, locks herself in her bedroom, and collapses. Clark climbs in through the window. He refuses to open the door to her worried friends, asserting that he is the best person to look after her, and says he will sleep on the sofa. Instead, he gets into bed with the woozy and incoherent woman and starts telling her he loves her. According to him, that’s as far as it goes – but Monroe can’t remember anything the next morning, so you’ve only got his word for it. Clark’s diary and the movie present this as a loving and quasi-heroic attempt by Clark to “save” Monroe. In fact, it’s creepy. Disquietingly, the film doesn’t question Clark’s version of events, though a lot of it can’t be verified and sounds like self-serving fantasy. For all his talk about wanting to protect Monroe, is it protecting her to sell your story – twice – when she’s dead and can’t answer back?"
I will firstly state that there is NO way that she was intentionally murdered. This is based on the fact there was no possible reason for her to be murdered. Some state the reasons why and I will expain below why this is not true:
MARILYN SLEPT WITH THE KENNEDY’S AND EMBARASSED THE FAMILY: Anyone who knows a thing about John F Kennedy and his father know that they were both, what I like call, “man-whores”. Despite being married they slept with whoever they please and whoever wished to oblige. Therefore why murder Marilyn as she wasn’t the only one?
There is no possible way Marilyn slept with Robert Kennedy as there are no records of private meetings. Any records have been made to sell stories and newspapers. In 1964, a book had been released by Frank A. Cappell which claimed that Robert Kennedy had been with Marilyn at the time of her death. This had also been noted by head of FBI, J. Edgar Hoover: “Cappell’s book will make reference to your alleged friendship with the late Miss Monroe. Mr Cappell stated that he will indicate that you were in Miss Monroe’s home at the time of her death.” Robert never responded and rightly so as Hoover was a manipulative man who disliked the Kennedy’s being in any sort of power.
SHE KEPT A RED DIARY WHICH HAD DETAILS OF GOVERNMENT SECRETS SO THEY NEEDED TO KILL HER TO GET THE DIARY: All of Marilyn’s diaries and notebooks are accounted for. The only person who had actually “seen” this notebook is a man named Robert Slatzer.
Now, Robert Slatzer is a notorious liar. He had claimed that he married Marilyn in 1952. There was no marriage certificate, which he said was destroyed and the marriage annulled. A “witness” called Noble Chissell admitted to Will Fowler that he only said he was present “to help out a friend”.
He also went on years later to say he knew Marilyn for 10 more years… yet Marilyn did not have one record of him.. No phone number, no address, no letters. Not one of Marilyn’s friends or colleagues recall meeting him.
He has been one of the many people who have made a huge profit from selling photographs of Marilyn which were taken by other photographs, selling stories which no one has been able to confirm…
Author Anthony Summers has used Slatzer’s words for Goddess which expresess nothing but a need for profit and “juicy gossip”. Hence why this book and any book connected to Slatzer, Summers, Lena Pepitone or Norman Mailer (as well as others) cannot be taken as as legitmate source of information. Please note that Norman Mailer later stated on television that his stories and his book were falsified to make money.
THE MOB WANTED HER DEAD: Ok, so Marilyn was friends with Frank Sinatra… I love Frank but he was a little bit of a “wannabe” mobster so there are no real connections. You cannot take the stories of her sleeping with Sam Giancana as a reason for Marilyn being killed, as people who knew the pair of them denied it completely, years after their deaths and under an anonymous status. There is no real reason why they would do this. The police were aware of mobster crime no matter who it was towards and someone would’ve slipped up by now. I can go on…. But the Kennedy’s have their evidence that Robert was not near Marilyn’s home as there is photographic evidence that he was with John Bates. There are many stories contradicting this but the claims have been from sources such as Eunice Murray (Marilyn’s housekeeper) who changed her story stating that Robert had been at Marilyn’s home as did a neighbour. However, due to previous changes of Eunice’s statement, I believe very little of what she says.
Milton Rudin - Marilyn’s lawyer and brother-in-law of Ralph Greenson
Peter Lawford - Friend of Marilyn’s, member of The Rat Pack. Husband of Patricia Lawford (JFK’s sister)
Milton Ebbins - Personal manager to Peter Lawford
Isadore Miller - Marilyn’s ex father-in-law (Arthur Miller’s father)
Ralph Roberts - Private masseur of Marilyn and good friend.
Greenson had been at Marilyn’s home on August 4th 1962 at approximately 1pm. Milton Rudin said that Greenson had spent the majority of the day with Marilyn. The telephone rang for Marilyn at about 2pm to which Eunice answered and stated to Joe DiMaggio Jr that Marilyn was not home.
At 3pm Pat Newcomb, Marilyn’s friend and press agent (who had stayed the night), was told to leave by Greenson. He felt that Marilyn was upset and needed to go for a walk on the beach. Eunice Murray then drove Marilyn to Peter Lawford’s home and collected Marilyn an hour later.
William Asher who had been present during the walk said that Marilyn had become less steady on her feet and that she had been “drugged”. Donald Spoto believes that it is possible that Marilyn had taken Nembutal before going for her walk which would explain the high levels in her blood. It would’ve taken several hours to reach those levels therefore it must’ve happened earlier in the day. He also believes Marilyn had been upset as Pat had a good night’s sleep and that Marilyn felt awkward due to Eunice being in her home during her last hours of employment therefore needing the drugs to keep her calm.
At 4:30pm Joe DiMaggio Jr called once again but Eunice said that Marilyn wasn’t home even though Greenson had arrived to resume his session with his patient. Marilyn did take a call from Peter Lawford at about 5:30pm. He asked whether Marilyn would like to come to a get together again that evening for a meal with other guests including Patricia Lawford and Milton Ebbins. She declined but he said he would call later in case she changed her mind. Two more calls from Isadore Miller and Ralph Roberts were disregarded by Eunice and Greenson.
Greenson claimed that he left Marilyn’s home at around 7pm leaving Eunice at Marilyn with Eunice Murray, “which she did not ordinarily do on Saturday nights”, according to a letter from Greenson to Marianne Kris. This was incredibly odd as this was meant to be Murray’s last day of employment and she had never been asked to stay before.
Around 7:15pm Joe DiMaggio Jr managed to get through to Marilyn where they chatted for 10 minutes. Marilyn had been in good spirits according to Joe Jr.. Greenson agreed with this as Marilyn had apparently called him after talking to Joe.
Peter Lawford called again at about 7:40/7:45 trying to persuade Marilyn to attend the party and said that Marilyn was slurring, which is different to the last accounts by Greenson and Joe Jr. According to Lawford’s account Marilyn said slowly and with great effort: “Say goodbye to Pat, say goodbye to the president and say goodbye to yourself because you’re a nice guy.” Lawford got scared and angry when Marilyn said “I’ll see. I’ll see.” The phone then cut off but when he tried getting through there was an engaged tone. The operator told Lawford that the phone was off the hook.
Milton Ebbins received a phone call from Peter begging them to go to Marilyn’s home. At 8:30pm Milton Rudin called Eunice Murray and asked him to check on Marilyn. Eunice stated that Marilyn was “fine”. Eunice never wrote about this event in her accounts.
Lawford was not convinced so called Joe Naar to assist at about 11pm. Ebbins then called immediately after Lawford stating that Marilyn was fine.
At about 1:30am Lawford had discovered from Ebbins (who had received a call from Rudin) that he and Greenson had found Marilyn “dead at midnight.” Lawford remembers the time as he glanced clock to see the time difference beween when she was found and when he was told.
According to Rudin, Marilyn had been dead before midnight as he had driven to the scene when Greenson had called. Arthur Jacobs, who was at a concert with his wife Natalie (before midnight) was told of Marilyn’s death during the performance, drove to Fifth Helena Drive once hearing the news.
Jacobs called Pat Newcomb, who had not been home that evening and managed to reach her at 5am. Sergeant Jack Clemmons received the phone call announcing the death of Marilyn at 4:25am… Nearly 3 hours after Lawford had been told that Marilyn had died.
These reports are first hand accounts from all but the people who had been with Marilyn all day. According to Eunice, she awoke at 3am for no apparent reason and saw the light under Marilyn’s door, she called and tried the door and it was locked. Eunice called Greenson who apparently instructed her to take a fire poker and part Marilyn’s curtains from outside to see if Marilyn was well. She did as she was told and saw Marilyn motionless and nude. Eunice reported this to Greenson who came over and broke a second window using the fire poker, climbed into Marilyn’s room and unlocked the door to inform Eunice that Marilyn had died. At 3:50am Greenson called Engelberg. The police were called 4:25am and arrived ten minutes later.
According the Donald Spoto, Marilyn’s bedroom carpet was brand new and had recently been laid thus being thick and not allowing light to escape from under the door. Eunice was confronted with this and changed her story saying she saw the phone cord under the door rather than light.
Secondly, the story in which Eunice states the door was locked was later amended when Roy Turner, genealogist and activist, wrote to Eunice Murray asking whether Marilyn’s door had been locked that night. Eunice honestly replied with “no”. Since being locked in Payne Whitney a year earlier Marilyn detested the idea of locked doors. According to invoices Marilyn’s home had only two locks installed, one was for files and the other was a replacement lock for the front door.
In addition, Marilyn did not have curtains. Due to her insomnia she had Ralph Robert nail thick black material to stop any light entering the room. There was no overlap as Marilyn did not want a single bit of light in the room this making it impossible for Eunice to move the material from the outside.
Furthermore, as you can probably gather from the first hand statements, Marilyn must’ve been dead before midnight however, if the police were called at 4:25am there leaves a disturbingly large time frame. Therefore, when questioned Eunice changed her timings, to noticing anything suspicious, at 3am which does not concur with the statement from Lawford or Ebbins who were informed that Rudin and Greenson had been at the house at 1:30am.
Greenson’s account was the same as Eunice Murray. He was never challenged however his and Eunice’s lack of mentioning Rudin’s name, make’s their story more and more suspicious as Rudin has claimed to have been there.
When interviewed Eunice had told Sgt. Clemmons that she found Marilyn at midnight. Clemmons queried why it took too long for the police to be notified. Greenson quickly replied that they needed to get permission from the publicity department.
The police searched for a suicide note which they couldn’t find. Marilyn’s body was taken for examination by Dr Thomas Noguchi.
Don Marshall who was an officer on duty at Fifth Helena Drive stated that rumours regarding the other officers on duty destroyed paperwork and tried to gather government information from Marilyn’s personal files was completely untrue.
Another strange factor that occurred at the home of Marilyn Monroe was that when the police arrived the laundry was on. Eunice had also arranged for her son-in-law Norman Jeffries to fix the window of the house so it was secure.
In the meantime Marilyn’s body was being examined by Noguchi and the conclusion of her death changed on a few occasions from ‘possible overdose of barbiturates’ on the 10th of August to ‘probable suicide’ seven days later and finally on 27th August ‘acute barbiturate poisoning - ingestion of overdose.” These changes were due to the results from toxicology tests. Her body had no sign of violence. In her blood there were 8mg of chloral hydrate and 4.5mg of Nembutal but in her liver there was 13mg of Nembutal.
On Marilyn’s bedside there had been bottles of full and partly full bottles of pills (which included her medication for sinusitis). There was one empty bottle of that had contained twenty five 100mg Nembutal tablets. The prescription had been made out to her on the 3rd of August by Engelberg. There were ten capsules left of the chloral hydrate, dated 25th July and repeated 31st July by Ralph Greenson. Dr Robert Litman from the Suicide Prevention Team stated,
‘“The only conclusion we could reach was suicide, or at least a gamble with death. Since our studies in 1960 we have found that no authenticated case where barbiturates were involved that a person was so drugged he didn’t know what he was doing”
showing they didn’t believe Marilyn killed herself deliberately.
The verdict of suicide was based primarily based on their consultations with Dr Greenson. Litman said, “ We wanted to get this over with, to come to a decision, close the case, issue a death certificate and move on.” Nobody moved on.
Forensic pathologist John Miner reached a different conclusion. “I did not think she committed suicide.” Miner also looked into the ways the drugs had been administered: orally, injection or enema. Oral consumption was ruled out for the following reasons:
The drugs taken that day must’ve been taken over a period of time as she wouldn’t have been able to take the capsules in one dose without overdosing before it reached the level it did.
An injection is also ignored as the amount to kill someone would’ve left a large bruise or swelling. Which therefore leaves an enema. This would explain why a major area of Marilyn’s colon had ‘discolouration’, as reported by Miner. “Noguchi and I were convinced that an enema was absolutely the route of administering the fatal drug dose.” Marilyn had a history of using enemas for dietary purposes as witnessed by many of Marilyn’s peers.
Who gave Marilyn what is one of the many questions that have been queried upon. Greenson had told Engelberg not to prescribe any more Nembutal without his permission (he was trying to stop Marilyn’s dependancy) but according to the pills on Marilyn’s bedside, he went against Greenson’s instruction. Therefore, as Marilyn was not meant to be taking those drugs Greenson believed it would be best to administer chloral hydrate via enema. Hence why it was in her blood and not in her liver as the Nembutal had been. This would then confirm why Marilyn had seemed “drugged” earlier that day and why there was no residue of the Nembutal in her stomach (it would have digested throughout the day). John Miner recalled Greenson stating, “If only I’d known about the other prescription.”
Therefore, this leaves the idea that Marilyn had taken the drugs throughout the day, however, upset and angry she asked Greenson to give her something to sleep. Greenson, unable to get the usual injection from Engelberg (due to personal issues) he believed the easiest and quickest way would be to give Marilyn an enema. Without knowing the dangers of the combination of the Nembutal she had taken earlier on, she agreed to receive a seductive enema of chloral hydrate. The drug would’ve been absorbed slowly therefore giving the time between phone calls to Joe Jr and Peter Lawford for her to gradually fell into unconsciousness. Who gave it though? According to Miner he believed it was Eunice Murray under the instruction of Greenson. This could mean that he never left Marilyn’s home. He claimed that he went for dinner with friends after leaving Marilyn but the friends were never mentioned in any statements.
In conclusion, I believe, using the evidence gathered from author Donald Spoto that Marilyn had taken pills throughout the day and was later given an enema by her house keeper under the instruction of Dr Greenson. This then caused her to overdose due to the high levels of drugs in her bloodstream.
Did Marilyn take any drugs that were not prescribed to her?
What photos are photoshopped or not Marilyn that get mistaken as her?
Did Marilyn really help Ella Fitzgerald perform at Mocambo?
According to Amy Greene, friend of Marilyn’s and wife to Milton, Marilyn had always had trouble sleeping (Marilyn had also said in My Story that she was given sleeping pills to help her when she had a terrible cold in the 1940s). However, according to Amy, the true addiction came when she married Arthur Miller in 1956 as he had made her feel inadequate. It is said that is was due to finding his notebook containing derogatory things about her causing her anxiety to grow.
Nembutal and chloral hydrate were in Marilyn’s blood when she passed away and other drugs to assist with her anxiety, insomnia and lack of energy (such as Seconal).
There is no evidence to suggest she. Although there have been clips online which show Marilyn smoking and it being assumed it is marijuana. It is incredibly unlikely Marilyn would allow anyone to film her performing an illegal action. It is however, likely that she may have smoked weed at some point, most likely the 1960s as… well… it was the 1960s! But there is no definite proof of this.
Lee Strasberg believed that to be a great actress Marilyn would need to delve into her subconscious and the best way to obtain this would be to see a psycho analyst. This way she would be able to feel empathy and become her character.
Marilyn always believed insanity ran in her family, however, she was mistaken. Marilyn’s great grandfather Tilford Hogan committed suicide in 1933 due to his failing health, starvation and the Great Depression. Marilyn’s grandfather, Otis Monroe died 1909 from an syphilis of the brain. His wife, Della believed that her husband and died from a mental disorder which is incorrect. Della later suffered from an inflammation of the heart which caused her to have many mood swings and manic depressive states. She rarely saw the doctor or remembered to take her medication. There was no psychological profile relating to her death, which was caused by heart disease. Marilyn’s mother also suffered from being run down from working long hours, causing depression and mood swings. She was then given medication that triggered abnormal behaviour. Marilyn suffered from anxiety and depression and was given medication to assist this. However due to the lack of control of her doses set by her doctor’s, Marilyn would often take too many causing her to become emotional and disorientated.
"The thing I want more than anything else? I want to have children. I used to feel for every child I had, I would adopt another."
Sadly Marilyn could not have children due to chronic endometriosis. It is said she miscarried during the making of The Prince and the Showgirl in 1956, however there is no official record that states this.
Due to the difficulty on the set of PATS I am certain she or someone close to her would\'ve made a statement about her having a miscarriage and so filming could be postponed. The story of the miscarriage only came from Colin Clarke. There is no record or medical information (that I know of) which confirms this ever happened. She had an ectopic pregnancy in August 1957 and told Berniece Miracle (her half sister) that her “heart is broken” and that she “will try again". Marilyn then miscarried in 1958 after 3 months pregnancy.
Marilyn was told in 1959, after having an operation to correct her issues with conceiving, that she would never be able to have children.
"And the rumours of her multiple abortions are ridiculous. She never had even one. Later there were two miscarriages and an ectopic pregnancy requiring emergency termination [of a pregnancy] but no abortion."
All of these books have little faults that is why you need to read them all as they have different methods of research, release dates etc.
The Marilyn Encyclopedia by Adam Victor (looks at a lot of different viewpoints of each topic)
My Story (ghost written by Ben Hecht, released after her death)
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