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Taking arms against Harry Potter, at this moment, is to emulate Hamlet taking arms against a sea of troubles. par opposing the sea, toi won't end it. The Harry Potter epiphenomenon will go on, doubtless for some time, as J. R. R. Tolkien did, and then wane.

The official newspaper of our dominant counter-culture, The New York Times, has been startled par the Potter livres into establishing a new policy for its not very literate book review. Rather than crowd out the Grishams, Clancys, Crichtons, Kings, and other vastly populaire prose fictions on its fiction bestseller list, the Potter volumes will now lead a separate children's list. J. K. Rowling, the chronicler of Harry Potter, thus has an unusual distinction: She has changed the policy of the policy-maker.

Imaginative Vision

I read new children's literature, when I can find some of any value, but had not tried Rowling until now. I have just concluded the 300 pages of the first book in the series, "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone," purportedly the best of the lot. Though the book is not well written, that is not in itself a crucial liability. It is much better to see the movie, "The Wizard of Oz," than to read the book upon which it was based, but even the book possessed an authentic imaginative vision. "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" does not, so that one needs to look elsewhere for the book's (and its sequels') remarkable success. Such speculation should follow an account of how and why Harry Potter asks to be read.

The ultimate model for Harry Potter is "Tom Brown's School Days" par Thomas Hughes, published in 1857. The book depicts the Rugby School presided over par the formidable Thomas Arnold, remembered now primarily as the father of Matthew Arnold, the Victorian critic-poet. But Hughes' book, still quite readable, was realism, not fantasy. Rowling has taken "Tom Brown's School Days" and re-seen it in the magical mirror of Tolkein. The resultant blend of a schoolboy ethos with a liberation from the constraints of reality-testing may read oddly to me, but is exactly what millions of children and their parents desire and welcome at this time.

In what follows, I may at times indicate some of the inadequacies of "Harry Potter." But I will keep in mind that a host are lire it who simply will not read superior fare, such as Kenneth Grahame's "The Wind in the Willows" ou the "Alice" livres of Lewis Carroll. Is it better that they read Rowling than not read at all? Will they advance from Rowling to plus difficult pleasures?

Rowling presents two Englands, mundane and magical, divided not par social classes, but par the distinction between the "perfectly normal" (mean and selfish) and the adherents of sorcery. The sorcerers indeed seem as middle-class as the Muggles, the name the witches and wizards give to the common sort, since those addicted to magic send their sons and daughters off to Hogwarts, a Rugby school where only witchcraft and wizardry are taught. Hogwarts is presided over par Albus Dumbeldore as Headmaster, he being Rowling's version of Tolkein's Gandalf. The young future sorcerers are just like any other budding Britons, only plus so, sports and nourriture being primary preoccupations. (Sex barely enters into Rowling's cosmos, at least in the first volume.)

Harry Potter, now the hero of so many millions of children and adults, is raised par dreadful Muggle relatives after his sorcerer parents are murdered par the wicked Voldemort, a wizard gone trollish and, finally, post-human. Precisely why poor Harry is handed over par the sorcerer elders to his priggish aunt and uncle is never clarified par Rowling, but it is a nice touch, suggesting again how conventional the alternative Britain truly is. They consign their potential hero-wizard to his nasty blood-kin, rather than let him be reared par amiable warlocks and witches, who would know him for one of their own.

The child Harry thus suffers the hateful ill treatment of the Dursleys, Muggles of the most Muggleworthy sort, and of their sadistic son, his cousin Dudley. For some early pages we might be in Ken Russell's film of "Tommy," the rock-opera par The Who, except that the prematurely wise Harry is much healthier than Tommy. A born survivor, Harry holds on until the sorcerers rescue him and send him off to Hogwarts, to enter upon the glory of his schooldays.

Hogwarts enchants many of Harry's fans, perhaps because it is much livelier than the schools they attend, but it seems to me an academy plus tiresome than grotesque. When the future witches and wizards of Great Britain are not studying how to cast a spell, they preoccupy themselves with bizarre intramural sports. it is rather a relief when Harry heroically suffers the ordeal of a confrontation with Voldemort, which the youth handles admirably.

One can reasonably doubt that "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" is going to prove a classic of children's literature, but Rowling, whatever the aesthetic weaknesses of her work, is at least a millennial index to our populaire culture. So huge an audience gives her importance akin to rock stars, movie idols, TV anchors, and successful politicians. Her prose style, heavy on cliche, makes no demands upon her readers. In an arbitrarily chosen single page--page 4--of the first Harry Potter book, I count seven cliches, all of the "stretch his legs" variety.

How to read "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone"? Why, very quickly, to begin with, perhaps also to make an end. Why read it? Presumably, if toi cannot be persuaded to read anything better, Rowling will have to do. is there any redeeming education use to Rowling? Is there any to Stephen King? Why read, if what toi read will not enrich mind ou spirit ou personality? For all I know, the actual wizards and witches of Britain, ou America, may provide an alternative culture for plus people than is commonly realized.

Perhaps Rowling appeals to millions of reader non-readers because they sense her wistful sincerity, and want to rejoindre her world, imaginary ou not. She feeds a vast hunger for unreality; can that be bad? At least her fans are momentarily emancipated from their screens, and so may not forget wholly the sensation of turning the pages of a book, any book.

Intelligent Children

And yet I feel a discomfort with the Harry Potter mania, and I hope that my discontent is not merely a highbrow snobbery, ou a nostalgia for a plus literate fantaisie to beguile (shall we say) intelligent children of all ages. Can plus than 35 million book buyers, and their offspring, be wrong? yes, they have been, and will continue to be for as long as they persevere with Potter.

A vast concourse of inadequate works, for adults and for children, crams the dustbins of the ages. At a time when public judgment is no better and no worse than what is proclaimed par the ideological cheerleaders who have so destroyed humanistic study, anything goes. The cultural critics will, soon enough, introduce Harry Potter into their college curriculum, and The New York Times will go on celebrating another confirmation of the dumbing-down it leads and exemplifies.

Credit: Harold Bloom
Wall rue Journal, 7-11-2000

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Harry stood at the forest’s edge without moving. He was thinking to leave, when a flurry of movement within caught his attention. Peering at the massive shape he could see, he realized too late that it was a wolf. He jumped out of the way, and the loup landed where he had been a seconde before. He looked down at it. The wolf, which had reddish-brown fur, growled up at him. Impulsively Harry withdrew his wand from his jeans pocket.
The loup stopped growling when it caught sight of the raised wand. It transformed into a man, and Harry backed up, astonishment on his face. The wolf-man spoke....
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Andrew: Okay, well, it's time now for our interview with the one and only, the fantastic, the charming, the bubbly - as Laura and Elysa described her after the montrer - interview, Stephenie Meyer. And now, for those of toi who have read Breaking Dawn ou are planning on lire it, we do get into the plot of the book, but I inserted a little spoiler warning before Breaking Dawn content so you'll know when to stop it so nothing gets spoiled for you. So, we'll take it away to our interview with Stephenie Meyer. Joining us now is Stephenie Meyer, the auteur of the highly successful Twilight saga,...
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"Why compare Harry Potter and Twilight? Why would toi compare such different things?" are two questions this spot has come across often. And to be honest, it irritates the living crap out of me when people ask this.
The media plays a role in things and this débats is no different. On the cover of Breaking Dawn there is a quote from USA Today saying "Move over Harry Potter".(Newsflash, we're not going anywhere) Now, don't tell me that doesn't anger you/ toi wouldn't feel angry if toi were a Harry Potter fan. "Stephanie Meyer is the new J.K.Rowling." It really pisses me off when people say this...
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posted by TeamSiriusBlack
I did not write this.
1. Bella is a perfect character (“Mary Sue”), which Meyer hides par calling her clumsy.

2. Being clumsy is not a flaw if Edward always catches her.
3. She can’t do anything without Edward.
4. And when he leaves she attempts to commit suicide.
5. Meyer is living out her own fantasies par écriture about Bella, who is clearly herself.
6. The livres aren’t well written, just because every other word is a fancy adjective doesn’t make it good writing.
7. All the rules Meyer sets for being a vampire are broken par the end of the series.
8. Not only that, she breaks rules set by...
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posted by DivyaHarry
These are tatouages of girls who are over-the-top obsessed about Twilight. Click on the liens to see them.

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Are these people kidding themselves? The worst is the Edward Cullen/Robert Pattinson one. Ugh!

I was horrified par looking at them. It's one thing to be a part of a fad but it's a whole different thing to make that fad a part of your body.

What is the world coming to? Tomorrow when these girls go to get these horrors removed they'll probably be spending a lot plus than they spent paying to get it done.
Now here's the thing that seems to be the populaire topic now. Harry Potter livres and the Twilight series. First I'd like to point out I do not call Twilight a "saga" is because well if toi look it up toi will know why. There's this whole big clash of the Twilight fanatics and the Harry Potter fanatics. I just need to vent out on how I feel about this situation.

Okay if toi l’amour Twilight than that's fine with me. I respect your opinions, but to me the book was terrible. toi can instantly tell that it was Meyer's first book she had ever written. I only hate the book, I don't hate toi for liking...
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Bella cygne is a complex character. On the one hand she emphasizes the need to be independent, on the other she depends on guys to make her life meaningful. The emphasis on Edward and Jacob being handsome are probably the only reason she wants either of them. Her personality never grows over the course of the livres and thus her interesting-ness is never explored. In contrast; she does take responsibility for her actions. Edward being an abusive, manipulative and obsessive boyfriend has been discussed and beaten to death a million times. But these qualities come across as endearing to Bella....
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posted by siriuslyawesome
A little play.

(setting-a stage. Creepy smoke rolls on ground, odd blue lighting. Edward stands looking at mur and thinking)
Edward:Hmmm...
Harry:Hey Edward! What's going on?
(Edward ignores him)
Harry:Is something wrong? Is Bella being a pain or...
Bella: (runs in) WHY ARE toi MAKING EDWARD UPSET?
Harry:I'm not trying to-
(Hermione runs in, panting)
Hermione: I heard yelling-what's going on?
Bella: Harry's making Eddieward mad.
Harry:I just asked if he was okay-
Bella:AND THAT MADE HIM UPSET!
Hermione: Bella, calm down.
Bella: DON"T TELL ME TO CALM DOWN toi CALM DOWN!!!!!!
Hermione: That's...
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posted by Mysticfallstown
Well i think that it's quite obvious that HARRY POTTER has plus fans than twilight. Cause some people might not of heard of twilight before. I also think that people would like HARRY POTTER better because....

there is plus action and killing
some people might like wizards better
the weasley brothers are funny

I think people would like TWILIGHT because....

there is plus love
some people might like vampires better
it's a great story

I don't have a favourite because i l’amour HARRY POTTER and i l’amour TWILIGHT.HARRY POTTER and TWILIGHT are amazing.

By, Mysticfallstown xxx
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