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ok so I found this stupid person listing all the reasons why twilight is better than twilight. so I replied to every single one. and this is her picture:





1. Robert Pattinson, can toi say HOT? And he's totally sexy when he sparkles!

So? Hotness has absolutely no correlation to jouer la comédie ability. He was also in Harry Potter first.


2. Taylor Lautner, I mean, have toi SEEN those muscles?

NOT HOT. Strange nose, closed up eyes and no jouer la comédie ability. That is just my personal opinion. As I said, hotness has no correlation to jouer la comédie ability.

3. Kristen Stewart. An extremely talented and beautiful actress, with loads of potential.

Ugly and emotionless. No talent whatsoever. IMO.

4. The Volturi. REALISTIC villains, instead of insane freaks in cloaks, like Voldemort and the Death Eaters.

The Volturi wear cloaks too, toi dumbass. And they are vampires which isn't anymore realistic than wizards because they are both fictional. Please explain your reasoning on this.

5. Because its just common sence to like twilight!!! Haha. Romance means everything. Bella and Edward are like, MENT 4 each other, and everything is just......PERFECT!! In Harry potter, u would that that harry and harmonie would like...fall in l’amour ou something....and then u watch people die in freaky ways, and then there are creepy things....GAHH!!! but yea. (:

Firstly, your spelling may signify how intelligent toi are, so I would recommend proofreading when trying to get a point across. Romance does not mean everything. That is a horrible message to send out to the pre-teens who watch twilight. It makes them believe they need a boyfriend to be capable people, and girls should learn to be independent because they do not need men. Also the whole beauty of Harry Potter is that it is unexpected and J.K. Rowling isn't afraid to kill off her characters ou put them in unexpected relationships, because that is how REAL LIFE WORKS.

6. Because it's one of the greatest l’amour stories ever!! Harry Potter is good too, but Twilight has way plus romance and plus hot guys....EDWARD, JASPER, EMMETT, CARLISLE!! Need I say more!

As I said, hotness has no correlation to jouer la comédie ability. And Harry Potter has hot guys too. Harry (Daniel Radcliffe), Ron (Rupert Grint), Draco (Tom Felton) and CEDRIC (ROBERT PATTINSON)


7. Yes, we all know that Harry Potter and Twilight are both fiction, but Twilight is clearly better. When I read a book, I like to imagine myself in the plot ou relate to the story somewhat. Aside from the vampire theme, Twilight actually takes place in a REAL town with up to rendez-vous amoureux, date things. ex) cars, school, etc. I'm sorry but I just can't picture myself on a flying train, eating chocolat covered frogs, headed to a non existent magical school. In my opinion, Twilight is obviously better.

Harry Potter takes place in the real up-to-date world as well, if toi haven't noticed but it does not happen in the non-wizard world. It happens in the wizard world where they have magic and do not need electronics ou anything.Do toi think the Volturi use ipads in their free time ou spend them in ancient libraries/weird ancient vampire cult meetings? Thought so.


8. OMGGG Harry POtter is messed up. Like seriusly, he needs to grow up and stop being so boring cuz edward is like waaaaaaay plus AMAZINNNG. therees no l’amour in hary potter and nobodies hot who wants to read a book without hot peeps?

AGAIN, hotness has no correlation to jouer la comédie ability and it doesn't matter. Harry Potter has realistic l’amour as well. Who gets married in high school and falls in l’amour as soon as they meet? Ron and Hermione have a friendship FIRST as most REAL relationships do. It develops so beautifully to montrer a truthful portrayal of childhood love. Its awkward and unexpected just like real love. I'm sorry toi can't see that. Maybe the fact toi so fiercely defend the romanticized notions of love, for example l’amour at first sight and sparks flying, comes from being a late bloomer/loveless in your teen years. Just a thought.

9. Each book in the twilight series has a different story line. It is mainly about Bella's Lovestory but in the 1st book it was about how Edward had to save Bella and in each book the story changes. The main reason of the book is for Bella To become A vampire. Then after that it is the story with Renesmee. In Harry Potter it takes 7 ou 8 livres to get to the point. Killing the one who must not be named. it drags on and on and becomes boring.

I don't even understand how toi can say that. I can not tell any of the twilight livres apart because 1. I don't care and 2. they are all exactly the same thing. They are pretty formulaic and they are the ones that drag on. I don't think toi have ever seen Harry Potter ou Twilight.

10. Twilight has a plus reasonable plot than HarryPotter. Look at Harry and you'll see he's plus angsty than Bella. And all the Harry Potter livres are like Harry being "My life sucks" and then Voldemort shows up and he's like "I'm going to kill you" and Harry's all like "No way" and then Harry wins in the end. It's way obvious, especially when the auteur already tells toi how many livres there's going to be. I mean, why can't we live in total suspense on what's going to happen next? Twilight gives that suspense that something amazing is going to happen that Harry Potter never gave us. Plus, Harry Potter is a wizard and wizards are demonic creatures. Who would want to root for a demon as the good guys? In twilight, everyone's a vampire, and vampires aren't Satan's spawn.

EVERYTHING toi JUST a dit IS WRONG. vampires ARE (IF toi HAVE EVER READ A BOOK EVER toi WOULD KNOW THIS) CONSIDERED DEMONIC AND SATANIC. IN VAMPIRE LEGEND, vampires CAN NOT STEP ON HOLY GROUND, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE DEAD LIVING AND THEREFORE ENEMIES OF GOD. BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE RELIGION IS A STUPID THING TO MENTION ON A WEBSITE BECAUSE IT COULD EXCLUDE PEOPLE OF OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL AS BEING COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. CAN toi GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL THAT THERE IS plus THAN ONE RELIGION? AND IF toi MUST ASSUME THERE IS ONLY ONE, AT LEAST DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH ON IT. Ok, sorry for the outburst, but honestly toi must be just pushing my buttons. Let me address each of your dumb points: 1. As far as I can see, how reasonable the plot of each story is, is irrelevant, at least if toi look at the plots in literal ways, seeing as they are both about the paranormal. 2. The angsty-ness is a matter of opinion, but I think all of Bella's problems are self made and all she does is bumble and moan over them. 3. Is there anything in Twilight that is unpredictable? I think not. 4. Well, the last point was handled up above.


11. In harry potter all they do is fly around on brooms and kill people with magic sticks (wands) I mean, really?

Harry Potter is a complex and in-depth story that has much plus hidden meaning than toi could ever understand. In twilight all they do is run around without shirts, fighting over a stupid, confused adolescent girl.


12. Edward wasn't a dork. Yeah, sometimes, dorks are cute. However, Harry was a bit too dorky and I can't see why girls even liked him.

He had this amazing thing called a personality. He had layers and complexity. And he's hot. That's why girls like him.

13. Harry Potter is for virgin nerds. Twilight is for cool and mature people.

First of all toi are a virgin nerd. And Twilight has absolutely nothing below the surface. toi see one twilight movie and toi know everything. It is simple and for dumbasses like you. Twilight is for boobless, hormone-crazed, pre-pubescent girls. Like you. Its sad toi think maturity is as simple as sexualization.


14. Hermione is a week character. Unline Bella, who struggles every day. Hermione has no problems, the only things she has are self-created. She follows Harry into his troubles. Big whoop. Even if she is teased about being a mud blood ou whatever its called, she has a choice. She could quit Hogwarts ou something. Bella has no choice, she is in love.

OK, toi quit school. Like right now. No big whoop, right? That's what Hermione did. Bella, on the other hand, has so many choices and yet she is incapable to function without her sparkling boyfriend. She threw herself off a cliff when he left. Just so she could get his attention and so he would come back. That is so unrealistic. In real life is she would be checked into a mental hospital for mental instability and severe dependence issues.


15. Twilight was a best selling novel, and has a bigger fan base than Harry Potter.

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Actually, Harry Potter's least populaire movie made plus money than the Twilight livres all together.

16. Stephenie Meyer writes that the only thing that can kill a vampire is another vampire ou a werewolf. Since Edward is a vampire created par Meyer, we can use her written characteristics and apply them to Harry Potter. Since Harry Potter is neither vampire nor wolf, this means that Harry Potter could not kill Edward and Edward would win.

vampires don't exist. Neither do wizards. You're jouer la comédie like a blood thirsty little 9 an old who sets his action figures up in play-battle-to-the-deaths. But why would it matter if they fought? Physical strength of characters is a miniscule detail when comparing how good the book is. It shouldn't come into the equation. Even if Harry died he would have accomplished something in his life. It would have been a life worth living.

17. Twilight led to many other Supernatural romances in livres and tv shows.

It started a trend. Because of toi retard fan-girls. Anyway, have toi heard of Anne Rice, Bram Stoker ou Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu? Stephanie Meyer didn't invent Vampires.

18. Unlike Harry, nobody's thoughts are actually that deep ou intellectual. I bet if any of us published our thoughts into a book, none would be great English lit; Bella's thoughts are plus realistic.

Actually, people's thoughts are like Harry's. And compared to most people he wouldn't be considered that smart. Which makes toi seem really stupid if toi think Harry Potter is complicated.

19. at least all of them dosent a scar of a lightning bolt.

Good one. That is a great reason. Seriously.

20. no witchcraft (practicing witchcraft is bad).

According to the TUDORS. Catch up with REALITY. Do toi know what an it is? ou are toi just a bible crazed impressionable youth who hasn't learnt to form an opinion yet? Either way, let me direct toi back to point number 10.


21. At least they talk about reliegon even 4 a short while.

And? Seriously? Even if they did (which I'm pretty sure they didn't) that would hardly be relevant. And also, Harry Potter teaches good values and characteristics that can be taught across many religions and different cultures. Traits that are important no matter of your background ou belief.

22. Twilight goes plus in depth with the emotions. toi can feel Bella's pain when Edward leaves her. toi can feel her confusion between Edward and Jacob. toi can feel her l’amour for Renesmee.

ARE toi SERIOUS? Twilight has ZERO character development, empathy ou common sense to actions. What I mean is that it just says OMG I l’amour HIM but doesn't montrer it ou make the watcher ou reader fall in l’amour with him too.
The jouer la comédie is also wooden and just plain bad. IMO


23. Twilight is a modern-day Romeo and Juliet in its themes of everlasting but forbidden love; to be compared to such a classic is an honor.

It has never been compared to that masterpiece. And HOW are they alike? People fall in love?!?!?! Yeah, that happens in just about every movie ever. Nothing else is the same. FORBIDDEN LOVE? That also is in just about every l’amour story ever. That is basically the formula of every crap rom com Hollywood inflicts upon us every month.

24. We like the time setting of Twilight. It is modern day.

SO IS HARRY POTTER toi ALREADY a dit THAT.

25. vampires stay with their partners will death. If toi mess with their partners, you'll get what's coming. Even after their partner is dead, they will remain loyal to them, till their time comes.

Real people déplacer on, experiment and change. Just like in Harry Potter. Twilight is so unrealistic. You're deluding yourself if toi think that's realistic. And also, where does it say that in Twilight?

26. We like and appreciate the fact that the vampires and loups garous in Twilight aren't anything like the one's from us before. To us, it's nice to take on the vampire and werewolf concept.

J.K. Rowling was so original she made up new creatures instead of using old ones. vampires and loups garous have been used so many times before and everyone is tired of it.

27. toi can read Twilight over and over again.

Not if toi want to keep your nourriture inside your stomach.

28. It is the rare vampire novel that isn't about sex on some level, and the Twilight livres are no exception. What makes Meyer's livres so distinctive is that they're about the erotics of abstinence. Their tension comes from prolonged, superhuman acts of self-restraint. There's a scene midway through Twilight, in which, for the first time, Edward leans in close and sniffs the aroma of Bella's exposed neck. "Just because I'm resisting the wine doesn't mean I can't appreciate the bouquet," he says. "You have a very floral smell, like lavender....or freesia." He barely touches her, but there's plus sex in that one paragraph than in all the snogging in Harry Potter.

Again, that is pointless. Good luck finding anyone ever like that. BUT this is one of the plus reasonable reasons which has evidence and support. But sex isn't something needed in a l’amour story. I also want to point out that in Harry Potter, the characters are quite young, so their l’amour will obviously be bumbling, awkward, clumsy ou something of that sort. Snogging is pretty normal at that age, and isn't supposed to have sexual tension. If anything its pretty realistic in the way its just a release of pubescent sexual frustration with little romance involved.

29. The characters change throughout the Twilight series as well. they may not be growing up like the Harry Potter Characters did, but they did change. The characters become plus brave, stronger, loving, forgiving, etc. Each character changed in the Twilight books. Harry Potter characters changed as well, but they kept some of their bad traits with them.

Of course they did. They were still the same people. In Twilight I have never once seen how they have changed. But Harry Potter is realistic and empathetic because people do keep their bad traits and aren't perfect, just like toi and me. toi know what, toi should visit this place called reality sometime soon. Its pretty jazzy.

30. IT has a graphic novel.

It has a comic book? Comic livres are for children, and yet the livres are about sex. Strange.


31. has plus female fans.

toi mean hormone-crazed, ten an olds and sex-crazed, lonely mothers? Congrats.


32. Harry Potter was mainly focused on children. We are into the plus mature books. That have mature elements in them.

toi think that mature elements are sex and love. That's it. That's all toi know about maturity. Harry Potter has multiple layers of friendships and connections and reflection and strength. Those topics are way plus mature than the ones in twilight because they are the characteristics of a strong, independent, mature adult. Its a typical teenager thing to say that sex and l’amour are maturity because teenagers believe that they are adults, but they still have the minds of children.

33. Who wouldn't want two guys fighting over you? :D That just makes a good story. Am I right?

Not really. I don't think toi even understand what toi are saying, because toying with boys feelings is a horrible thing to do. And it also makes a bad story. Which Twilight has proven.

34. Bella cygne is a strong character. SHe is brave, caring, forgiving, accepting, and just plain awesome :) She has risked her life many times to save someone she loves, such as Charlie, Renee, Edward, Jacob, The Cullens, Nessie, etc. She went through weeks of pain to save her daughter. SHe was willing to die so her baby could live. She has also formed a huge army and was prepared to fight till the death to protect her child and family. So yes, Bella is a role model. And No, she is not dependent on Edward.

Wrong. There are no examples of Bella having any of those characteristics. She risked her life for attention, not for others. She didn't form an army, people did it for her because they cared about her. I don't know why. She is very dependent on Edward.

35. Twilight totally had a better, richer, plus complex plot line than Harry Potter.

Wrong again. Harry Potter has MULTIPLE themes such as: The Value of Humility, The Occasional Necessity of Rebellion, The Dangers of Desire, Authority, The Importance of Friendship, Trust, Self-Reflection, Strength and Choosing to do the right thing. I could say more.

36. Alice Cullen. She is just awesome! She would probably be considered as the "Luna" in Twilight. Am I right? Alice would be the perfect sister. She would make anyone smile if they had a bad day.

We have a real Luna. AND Hermione.

37. All four Twilight livres made us teary eyed. As for Harry Potter, some parts made us sad and a little teary, but Twilight was the one that really made us teary.

Wrong again. Twilight made people laugh. At the stupidity of it. Harry Potter made us cry, laugh, get angry, feel sympathy and most importantly feel empathy.

38. The Twilight livres were so amazing!! We just could not put them down at all! For Harry Potter, some of the livres we could not put down, but others made us a bit sleepy.

Thats a matter of opinion. and I think toi know mine.

39. Daniel Radcliffe is doing pornografic comédies musicales on Broadway and Robert Pattinson is chant and jouer la comédie in other movies...who exactly got the better end of the deal?

Wrong again. All of robert's films after twilight have flopped and been poorly rated. Daniel is in highly rated and anticipated movies, that are just as provocative as twilight. He is just exploring his jouer la comédie abilities.

40. Sirius Black can turn into a great, black dog, Peter Pettigrew can turn into a rat, James Potter can turn into a stag, Remus Lupin a werewolf Rita Skeeter can turn into a beetle and Minerva Mcgonagall can turn into a cat. How scary is that?? Not at all. A Twilight shapeshifter would OWN them all :)

They aren't supposed to be scary toi dumbass. They have better things to do with being shapeshifters.

41. The HP livres are all depressing. Lots of good characters die, which isn't cool. And they're just full of violance, and ridiculous plans.

Twilight is full of violence. Good people die in real life. ITS REALISTIC FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME. Unlike twilight.

42. Stephenie Meyer did her resarch and found a place like Forks so the vampires could be outside. JK just made one up.

Stephanie Meyer didn't use any originality ou creativity. Unlike J.K. Rowling. I would go into that, but the only people worth talking to about this, already know it.

43. The sparkles are so unique and creative. They're not stupid.

No, they are stupid.

44. harry potter is too hard for a young child to read.

I managed and so did the rest of the world. I read it when I was 9. NEWSFLASH: toi MAY JUST BE STUPID. And although Twilight may be easy to read, due to its simple and uninspired écriture style, on WHAT earth would they be appropriate for young children?

45. Twilight is better because the livres are written better and the characters bring plus to the table, tableau for the readers.

Apparently Harry Potter is too hard for toi so what would toi know about good writing?

46. It's set in America.

Well it seems like you're running out of ideas.
America is essentially England. Because toi are all just English immigrants. Unless toi are native american. But we still created the english language and that is why it is called ENGLISH.
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I have actually read both series and liked Twilight okay, but Harry Potter rules for me!

First, the so often brought up topic... love, ou lack thereof. Harry Potter consists of all sorts of love: family, parental, romantic, friend. Twilight consists of pure lust. Now for the evidence! Mrs. Molly Weasley killed Bellatrix Lestrange because Bellatrix nearly killed Ginny, her only daughter. The Weasleys all look out for each other, and even Percy apologized in the seventh book. They joined together in dark times, happy ones, sad ones, and when Fred died. toi might say the Cullens montrer family love....
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Over-all, the movie wasn't that bad. It stuck very, very close to the book (like, literally taking lines straight), with the exception of one ou two parts, so Breaking Dawn fans will absolutely l’amour it. But, even if you're like me and hated Breaking Dawn, the movie was still pretty enjoyable. Definitely not unbearable. The effects were great, the musique was awesome, and Kristen kicked major ass. There was humor (because Charlie was there), there was drama, and there was even an awesome fight scene. (One-and-a-half, really.)

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Liked:
-The one-liners.
    Charlie's...
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I'm going to start doing articles like this because I think it's fun and I just wanna see who thinks one character is better than the other.

Before toi guys start, let me tell toi my opinion. I think that Bellatrix is the better villan because she's mean, crazy and cruel but also happens to have good fighting skills, even though I hate her for hurting Hermione. She's also not afraid [potterheads correct me if i'm wrong] to kill others. She pretty much has the ultimate personality and guts that Villaness's have.

Those are my opinions. Now... feel free to add yours!! Enjoy:)
PREFACE - THE JEALOUS-FALLACY IN ITS MANY FORMS

Alright, I have already dissected one very common fallacy invoked par some Twilight fans and a few Harry Potter fans as well, the Edward-fallacy. I shall not discuss that one but instead I will be moving on and examine another common fallacy invoked par some fans, using what I believe is the two most common forms of it.

"YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS, THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID"

Firstly, let us examine the logical reasoning behind "You are just jealous, therefore your argument is invalid".
It is invoked when any fan post an argument and employes this...
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1. It has better writing.
2. It's plotline is better.
3. I'd rather read a book about a teenage boy going to a wizardry school and fighting a dark sorceror than one about a ditzy girl who's way too obsessed with her sparkly boyfriend.
4. The characters are plus relateable.
5. J.K. Rowling is not afraid to kill off plenty of good guys.
6. Most of the characters' educations actually matter to them.
7. It doesn't have thousands of rabid fangirls.
8. The characters are plus three-dimensional.
9. It stays true to mythology.
10. It has plus types of l’amour in it, not just romantic and sexual l’amour (or should...
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harry ;anyone here i bored and can't do Magie
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ginny; yea am here this is why better then are old owl MDR
harry; huh? MDR wants that tell ron say hi d hi
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ron; hi harry was up and ginny get out of this chat room
ginny; u can't make me
harry; ron ginny be nice and can any one till me what MDR and waz means
ginny; MDR means laughter out loud and wazwantt is up
ron ;lol means laughh out loud and waz want is up
ginny; toi took the words right out of my mouth
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edwardcullen; I WEAR GIRLS CLOTHS AND AM A SPIKING VAMPIRE WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN l’amour WITH A HUMAN GIRL
harry; freak
ron; yea
ginny; get off hear your in the wrong chat room go to the one with the six an olds
edwardcullen; ok
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