what is this all about but everybody knows edward will win because hes hotter glacière and has bella

WOW. God forbid someone who doesn't like Twilight. JK Rowling is a MUCH better writer with original ideas, unlike Myers. How many "vampire l’amour stories" have toi seen in this world? MILLIONS. So lets see, how many livres have had a young boy who Lost his parents and discovers hes a wizard were there before Harry Potter? NONE. And which series took about 4 years to FINALLY get popular? Twilight, unlike Harry Potter, which was an instant hit. Plus, Robert Pattison is NOT a good actor, ou hotter. Daniel Radcliffe is the best par far in any science-fiction/fantasy films ou livres and is WAY plus handsome. Harry Potter is funny, action filled, romantic, and a page turner. So my vote in this "fight" would DEFINATELY go to Harry Potter.

The fact that Edward is hotter and glacière doesn't mean he's a better character ou has plus depth to him. it's outside beauty. And as for the part that he has bella, well, i sort of pity him. how he can stand such an annoying whimpy girl, i will never know.

Everyone had their oppionion and obviously that's yours.I l’amour Edward and Twilight for that matter, he has some really good points, but some bad ones also,but so does Harry Potter.
And i know that toi are expressing your oppioion on here , but i think some people might take it the wrong way, like some people have already done.
But some people on here just need to take a chill pill lol, shes just saying what she thinks and if toi dont like it then dont diss her about it.
I think that Edward is better then Harry potter, and that Robert Pattinson is better then Daniel Radcliffe. But then again thats just what i think.
Robert is a good actor,singer and model!
And who cares if Twilight took 4 years to become popular,it finally did didnt it? and there are alot of GREAT livres out there that havnt become popular. Twilight is a Action,Romance,Comedy and a mystery book <- Now this book is a real page turner.

What it's 'all about' is not a débats about who is 'hotter' ou 'cooler'. It' a débats about which book is better - about how deep the plot is, how captivating, well-written etc. And having a hot and cool character certainly doesn't affect that. Being a good book does not depend upon how cool the main characters are and that's why the débats about the better book has never been about Edward vs Harry. And I'd be scared for the future of literature if it was.
Really, toi need to grow up.

So that's ultimately all that matters? How 'hot' and 'cool' the character is? God, that doesn't seem immature and shallow in the slightest. WHO GIVES A DAMN IF HE'S HOT? Is that really all toi freaking care about? toi need to grow up and get a life. Edward in my opinion is actually not hot; he's a one dimensional stalkerish abusive vampire. There's nothing special about him. He is a completely flat character. He is so BORING. I'd like to see your big bad sparklepyre go up against Voldemort; he would get all angsty on the Dark Lord's cul, ass and he would get annoyed and Avada Kedavra him. Dead as a doornail in 1 minute. Just like he should be. And as someone else mentioned, I feel sorry for this character because he has Bella. Oh wait, I don't. Because he's a flat boring character. So who cares?

And there's my losing my temper for the day. *Throws in towel* And keep in mind this was directed at the maker of this so called "question," no one else. I apologized if I offended anyone else.

How will being hotter than Harry help him win anything? What will Edward do? Sparkle at him? At least Harry Potter doesn't have the message, "If toi are pretty, toi are amazing. If toi are ugly, toi are a shame to society." Harry is lovable without being the hottest guy in the world, which is plus than I can say for Twilight. Nobody would like Edward if he weren't so damn gorgeous. He's a creepy and abusive stalker who has no life.

How is Edward glacière than Harry in any way? As I a dit earlier, he is creepy, abusive and stalkerish, none of which are cool at all. Having no life isn't cool either. Just because he's pretty doesn't make him cool. Harry is cool because he treats people right (he never abuses Ginny ou any of his friends, unlike Edward) and he has a life. Besides saving the world, he's a étoile, star Quidditch player. I'd say that is pretty cool.

Having Bella actually harms Edward. What is the Mary-Sue, whiny and selfish, arrogant and rude, good for nothing Bella going to do to help anything? All she ever does is ungratefully complain about her life, talk about how pretty her boyfriend is, and hide behind her man while he saves the day. Anti-feminism! Ginny may not be my favori character in Harry Potter, but she is a heck of a lot better than Bella! At least Ginny can fight for herself. Both characters are sluts (well, in livres 5-6 for Ginny) but at least JK Rowling did it purposely. Ginny also actually has a personality and a life. She sticks up for her Friends as opposed to abusing them.

If toi are talking about winning in a fight, I would firstly like to point out that Bella would lose in a fight against Pigwidgeon. Ginny, however, can actually fight just as efficiently as a male in Harry Potter can. Secondly, Edward wouldn't stand a chance against Harry. Just one wave of the wand, and Edward is done.

Harry >>>>> edward (his name does not deserve capitalization)

i no i lyk so agree. i @m $0 jealusz ov edwerd. i wIsH i ad a stalker-loving clutzy miserable boring drip par my side...

YEAH RIGHT!

seriously, what is the point in this question? Edward is not "cool" he is tortured he is not "hot" he even LOOKS like he's being tortured. YEah, he has Bella, but if that's sooo amazing to have then why the hell is he always going around looking strained?

Listen, Harry Potter's characters actually HAVE characters. They are not all "pretty" and "graceful" which, in my opinion, is realistic.
Harry Potter HAS a VERY GOOOD plot, something Stephanie Meyer's Twilight "saga" lacks.

If another question like this pops up I will SLAUGHTER TWILIGHT.

P.S -- Bram Stoker haunted me last night. He was there par my bookcase, he took up New Moon, and then ripped it up, tearing it apart with his teeth. This left no mess, but New Moon was not in my bookcase, when I saw this I shouted to the door where he disappeared "CAN toi COME AND DO THE REST?!"

sorry to break it you, but not everyone loves edward. in fact i HATE him. and not just becuz he's apart of twilight, but becuz he's an idiot.

Seriously? My brain hurts from trying to figure out what you're trying to say...

Let me sum it up for toi in my own little way = I dont give a good God damn about Twilight ou anything that deals with it. Thanks. Oh and along with what Lady Lilith said, Lord Voldy would kick Eddys arse so hard, while Bellatrix could kill Bella in a staring contest shes so whimpy.

I think that edward is very creppy and stalkerish. Am i the only person who finds it weird that edward watches bella sleep and she is ok with that? And to any person who thinks hp doesnt have love, the whole book is about love. its just not throw at you. its plus realistic. and having bella isnt a plus.

Ahahaha... oh, wait, you're serious.

I'm assuming that 'this' would be this spot: The Harry Potter vs. Twilight spot. Simple. This is a place to discuss which book is better in a calm, civil way. Personally, I like HP better, but I'm still willing to hear some Twilight fans out.

And, ahem... hotter, cooler? toi just contradicted yourself there.

And I don't see how having Bella is a good thing. She's a whiny, angsty, Mary-Sue, and if I even touched her, I would take a decontamination douche before grating my skin off.

*facepalm* Hotter? Cooler? Will win? No, he is (in my opinion) retarded, gay and failure. Yeah, he has Bella, but she just seems very stupid, not very useless, but stupid and whiny. I a dit my opinion, no need to go bashing, but if toi want to, go ahead. Just don't expect a good result after your bashing and insults...

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This is a prime example of the fallacy Ad nauseam and therefore it may be discredited from the main HP vs TW debate.

Sorry, I've had enough of this sort of argumentation. HP fans, we have already discredited this so many times it's getting whiny. I suggest blank ignorance suivant time this sort of question shows up.

To point out another fallacy: Just because Edward is hotter Does not automatically infer the conclusion that he is going to win. This is called Non Sequitur - The conclusion does not follow from the statements, therefore it's an invalid argument.

Question: How many logical fallacies can a rabid Twilight fan squeeze into an argument?

"One should not be judged par the color of their skin but par the content of their character."
-Martin Luther King Jr.

Edward's skin color? Sparkly pale, like glitter glue. But does that matter? Let's stop and pause for one second. Bella mentions how beautiful Edward is in his looks and movement ONE HUNDRED SIXTY SEVEN TIMES in TWILIGHT ALONE. We never hear how Edward is compassionate and gentle. Why not?........it doesn't matter, since apparently, beauty is all that matters.
Bella would never have noticed Edward if he wasn't so "beautiful." If he had looked (in the book) any worse that a model, she would have thought of him as another person she could manipulate and use. A typical "love" scene in Twilight has Bella complimenting Edward on his Adonis-ish-ness, Edward saying some thesaurus-researched word that he never would have a dit even if he WAS a real 1920s vampire, a paragraph about his scintillating skin. Bella remarks about her stupidity and/or falls over.

l’amour scene in HP: Unless lust scene with Ron and Lavender, the characters talk about the peril of their mission and how they probably won't survive. One character is a dit to have a flaw in their looks (eg.Ginny looked weary and worn) and they tell each other they'll "hold on to the end" ou something like that. Cue inspirational quote and/or "I can't be with you,"or one complimenting another on a difficult task they overcame.

No mentions of Harry's "Topaz eyes" ou Ron's "Scintillating arms."

In Harry Potter, beauty isn't everything. toi may disagree and think that beauty is the most important thing one can possess, but when you're stuck in a room slowly filling with boiling water toi can't smile your way out of it, toi need intelligence and resourcefulness. Beauty is not a bad trait, but a character needs plus than "sparkling skin" to be a character with depth.


So, we've established that "hotness" does not matter.



Edward's cool?
Let's think, what powers does Edward possess that might make him "cool":

1.Super speed
2.Mind reading
3.Super Strength
4.Sparkles in sun
5."Hotness" which doesn't count, see above
6.He's dead so his body is cold, which means cool
7.Immortality

Now, let's see if Harry can match that:
Super Speed: Harry can apparate, disappear in one place and reappear in another
Mind reading:Legilemency
Super Strength:Diffindo spell rips heavy objects apart. Wingardium Leviosa makes heavy objects fly. Accio makes heavy objects go to you.
Sparkles:Body glitter, and there has to be some sparkling spell too
Literally cold: Freezing charm/potion
Immortality:unicorn blood, philosophers/Sorcerer's Stone





































He has Bella? Poor Edward. 'Tis a fate worse than death.