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WHY is RoyEd such a populaire pairing??

Okay, before any angry yaoi fangirls jump on me, let me make this clear: I DON'T CARE IF toi SHIP ED AND ROY TOGETHER. IT'S OKAY. toi are free to love, hate and pair up whoever toi want. I respect that, and I'm not trying to shove my opinions down anyone's throat. So please relax.

I'm asking this because I'm genuinely confused and squicked out par the EdRoy pairing, and I can't for the life of me understand why so many fans ship it, and I want to find out why people are so crazy about it.

Here are the issues I have with this pairing:

1) The age/power difference. Come on, a 15-year-old kid and a 30-year-old man? That's just...ew. And I would be EQUALLY squicked out par this if it were a yuri ou het pairing, BTW. I don't care who's a girl and who's a guy; the age difference would still be gross to me.

2) It's really out-of-character for both of them. Realistically, I can't see Ed crushing on a man he despises who's at least 15 years older than him. Likewise, I can't see Roy lusting after a teenage boy at all. And for another thing, I see no hints that either of them are remotely gay. It's clear that they both like girls, and there's no real evidence that they have the hots for each other. None that I can see, anyway.

I realize that neither squick nor OOCness nor un-canon-ness can stop anyone from shipping anything, but still...I don't understand how so many fans can seriously ship this.

Again, I'm not saying any of this to bash RoyEd ou its fans, and I'm not trying to start any fanwars. toi like RoyEd? Ship away to your heart's content. I won't get in the way. These are just honest questions I have, and I'd like to hear your answers. Why do toi think this is such a populaire pairing in the FMA fandom?
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Thank you! I tried to be as polite and respectful as I could. =)
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yaoi is beautiful. :)
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corrynthecat said:
its probably populaire because their r a bunch of people who like to pair people who r not at all alike and that there would be no chance of their getting togther idk y
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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That's all very true. I don't mind Ed/Roy so long as the writer has up-aged Edward ou down-aged Mustang, so long as they're both AT LEAST 20. Damn, I've gotten old. Post Script: I suspect the reason I prefer Ed/Roy to Roy/Ed has A LOT to do with the power inequality.
kaibunnee posted il y a plus d’un an
Animeanimal said:
About your concerns....
1. If l’amour knows no bounds (which it doesnt!) Then Age, race, and yes, even gender should not matter.

2. They dont flat out HATE each other! Its all play fight. They both know that one couldnt last a seconde without the other! They say all that stuff because they care for one another! And if they did like each other (b/c toi are saying that they dont) It wouldnt be lust. Do toi think that gay relations ou age difference means it HAS TO BE lust?

......About your main question. Maybe it is so populaire b/c we are all just wishing to see a slight understanding in the world for homosexuals. We are still hoping that maybe there is a time when we are not shunned and pushed aside......just for our l’amour going in a different direction then the populaire view on it.

Maybe this video will give toi an idea....
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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i agree with toi there! not that edxroy is my favori shipping..
theanimemaster posted il y a plus d’un an
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Dahell is this vid? :/
SBTrulz posted il y a plus d’un an
LinkKinuzuma13 said:
To be completely honest, i HATE the RoyEd pairing. It doesn't make sense. The age difference is gross, and uncalled for. If she had intended them to be together(Which she didn't) She would have made them around the same age. She meant EdWin, and that's it. End of story. I'm not in on the fan war, but i just want to make a point, RoyEd is FANON! EdWin is CANON! There's a difference between the two...
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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Yeah, but that doesn't mean people can't ship them. Canon, fanon, who cares. It's a matter of opinion. I accept your's, and I see why toi don't like RoyEd, but please don't imply that canon is better than fanon. I mean, just look at Masaya and Ichigo! Perfectly canon, perfectly disaster. Almost every fan of Tokyo Mew Mew hates the only canon couple. There are exceptions to 'canon is better', but, please, don't bring in what auteur meant for. Shipping is specifically for what fans want, unless it's in the actual work. Don't act like everyone likes canon better fanon pairings, please. I understand and accept your opinion, though.
amutokitty posted il y a plus d’un an
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I wasn't saying that they can't ship them. I was only saying that there is a difference between the two, and that sometimes people cant recognize it.(not you, of course) I didn't mean to come off as saying one was better than the other. People can ship what they want, of course, but this is just my opinion., that
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AngelSelene said:
I know this is old, but I don't see actual réponses as to why beyond "they're hot together."

Saying that "they don't get along" is a poor counter because toi have a lot of the same antagonistic dynamic between EdRoy as toi do with EdWin. Opposites attract is a thing. While Winry's interest in Ed is well established, I *don't* think Ed's reciprocated interest is. That means when they get together, it feels like it’s the stereotypical ending instead of an earned one.

Onto why I enjoy the ship from someone who actually ships them. Ed is a fascinating character to me, and so is Roy. Winry really isn’t. It’s not that she isn’t well-developed is just not as interesting to me. I like Winry, I just don’t like her *with Ed.* The juxtaposition of Ed’s maturity based on his trauma and the immaturity of still being young is interesting, and further complicated par how smart he is. I can very easily see Roy as 1) someone who isn't picky about gender and 2) very attracted to intelligence and competence, both of which Ed has IN SPADES. Roy is overt about flirting with women, but even in-world, it's established that it's largely a facade. I can see Ed being attracted to Roy for similar reasons. Honestly, the fact that Roy blatantly pulls Ed's chain so often feels pretty similar to a boy pulling on the pigtails of a girl he likes.

They're also both very damaged individuals, and I think that their traumas give them an empathy with one another that few others have.

I know the age gap is a deal breaker for a lot of people. In Ed's case, even when he's immature, there's a weight and metaphorical age he has gained through what he's been through. I think he'd relate much plus to someone like Roy and I think he actually has much plus in common with someone like Roy than peers his own age.

That isn't to say there aren't problems inherent with shipping them. For me, plus than the age gap is the power dynamic issue. There are very good reasons why nonfraternization policies exist. The potential for abuse in that situation is *huge* and shouldn't be ignored. Particularly because Roy was the one who recruited Ed in the first place.

The solve I see in good fics (and I use in my own) is that Ed is usually the one to make the first move. Roy making a déplacer on Ed has too much potential to read as squicky between the age difference and power dynamic. Fortunately, Ed is a character who is proactive, so having him decide to make a déplacer makes sense. Most good fics (at least ones that aren't blatant AUs) even have Roy having issues with the age difference and the power dynamic, and them dealing with those as being factors in the relationship.

There’s nothing wrong with Ed marrying his childhood friend, but to me, Roy/Ed is a 1000x plus interesting.

And yes, they're hot together.
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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I agree! Everything toi said, I agree. That's why I ship them too! (Plus the alure of the forbidden! 😋)
loveslaveangel posted il y a plus d’un an
LunaShay said:
I agree with you.I like EdWin,not RoyEd(no offense to fans).Ed always calls him names and how he hates him so,and the age difference..I can't even imagine that..e-o
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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Ed:(about Roy) "tell him, 'don't worry, toi corrupt beauracrat with a god complex'"
Hinata-Snow posted il y a plus d’un an
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They really do care toi know. Ed is not really that heartless.....
Animeanimal posted il y a plus d’un an
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*Extreme Facepalm* Are toi Human? If toi are, then toi should Know that Ed is too, No one hates no one, and every one should know that!
IshidaSado posted il y a plus d’un an
IshidaSado said:
I Completely agree with AnimeAnimal! And I Also want to bring to your attention, that Roy acts gay(Uke at that) all of the time,cleaning windows, looking at his nails,and he even was spying on Edward to make sure he was alright,during his oral part of the test! Rewatch that episode from the original series if toi don't believe me!
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 I Completely agree with AnimeAnimal! And I Also want to bring to your attention, that Roy acts gay(Uke at that) all of the time,cleaning windows, looking at his nails,and he even was spying on Edward to make sure he was alright,during his oral part of the test! Rewatch that episode from the original series if toi don't believe me!
posted il y a plus d’un an 
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All delusion aside, Riza Hawkeye pretty much killed RoyEd, if it ever had a chance. (let's face it: Roy and Ed HATE each other.)
Hinata-Snow posted il y a plus d’un an
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So youre saying cleaning windows is gay? Looking at your nails is gay? Looking after your friend is gay? Dafuq is wrong with you? :|
SBTrulz posted il y a plus d’un an
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Roy looks at Ed as a child and wants to protect because of this not because he has romantic feelings for him
alexismanga posted il y a plus d’un an
RobinFan360 said:
its just a dream.
i myself dont understand how people can up with this.yaoi fans always seem to find the odd parings out there.they dont care if it doesn't make sense,they just want to get their boy's l’amour out there and DREAM. just like if toi wanted to be famous.even if its impossible,youstill dream.
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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As far as I am concerned.....This was REAL in the original FMA and the original was all that matters to me seeing as how it is the best. And here is another thing i want to tell you......Alll of toi think toi are better then us yaoi fans and think we like yaoi just for the perversions! WELL U ARE DEAD WRONG!!! I myself can actually see the l’amour between these two (even though tthey ACT like they hate each other)
Animeanimal posted il y a plus d’un an
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I agree that under the snarky surface, they do care a lot about each other. I see 0 hard evidence that's it's ROMANTIC (you don't see them blush, get awkward around each other, etc), but there's definitely a strong and awesome friendship there. =)
Dearheart posted il y a plus d’un an
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But in Roy and Ed's case, they just dont l’amour each other.
SBTrulz posted il y a plus d’un an
hp_rocks said:
Just because it's out of character doesn't mean that fans can't have fun. It's /fiction/. I think we all know that it's really out-of-character for both of them, but c'mon, it's also out of character for Light x L, from Death Note. Let the fans have fun.

And I have two other things to say.

1- Age difference really doesn't matter.
2- Ed starts as 12, not 15 XD
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pumpkinqueen said:
Because people seem to l’amour to shove yaoi in everything, I don't understand it myself. The one thing I do hate about yaoi, is when it's fans start saying their pairing is Canon. Umm....did they date? Are they married? Did they kiss...hug? Say they l’amour each other? Then they're not Canon! It's just a Fan-Made pairing! If you're true fans toi would be able to except it as that, I do that with all my yaoi pairings.

I actually DO like some yaoi and I don't mind other pairings. But once toi start pairing brothers together ou people 20 years apart, that's were I draw the line. That makes me sick, it's not just yaoi it's for everything. It can be brother/sister, sister/sister, ou brother/brother. It's wrong and not right. All pairings like that are sick! I hate pairings like RoyEd and even RizaEd, they're like 30 years apart in age! It's just not right!! Go ahead and ship people like L and Light(Death Note), that doesn't bother. But do NOT ship sibling and people far apart in age together! How would toi feel if it was happening in real life? I beat toi wouldn't feel the same about it.

Now I don't watch ou read yaoi at all, the yaoi I like is just sweet and cute pictures. toi now like them hugging ou even a Kiss on the cheek. Nothing to big, I mean I like some Kiss pictures, but do not go over board.

This is the kinda yaoi I like, just sweet and nothing over board.
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 Because people seem to l’amour to shove yaoi in everything, I don't understand it myself. The one thing I do hate about yaoi, is when it's fans start saying their pairing is Canon. Umm....did they date? Are they married? Did they kiss...hug? Say they l’amour each other? Then they're not Canon! It's just a Fan-Made pairing! If you're true fans toi would be able to except it as that, I do that with all my yaoi pairings. [u]I actually DO like some yaoi and I don't mind other pairings.[/u] But once toi start pairing brothers together ou people 20 years apart, that's were I draw the line. That makes me sick, it's [u]not just yaoi[/u] it's for everything. It can be brother/sister, sister/sister, ou brother/brother. It's wrong and not right. All pairings like that are sick! I hate pairings like RoyEd and even RizaEd, they're like 30 years apart in age! It's just not right!! Go ahead and ship people like L and Light(Death Note), that doesn't bother. But do NOT ship sibling and people far apart in age together! How would toi feel if it was happening in real life? I beat toi wouldn't feel the same about it. Now I don't watch ou read yaoi at all, the yaoi I like is just sweet and cute pictures. toi now like them hugging ou even a Kiss on the cheek. Nothing to big, I mean I like some Kiss pictures, but do not go over board. This is the kinda yaoi I like, just sweet and nothing over board.
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Part_of_the_sky said:
I guess people think it's cute how protective Roy can be over Edward. Although I'm not a huge yaoi fan, I prefer EnvyxWrath fan.

There are some age difference pairings I like (AlphonsexMei, RizaxWinry, ect)
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amutokitty said:
To be honest, I think RoyEd is a pretty cute couple, so long as it's not smutty ou hardcore. Sweet and kissy RoyEd is pretty cute, I just find the couple pretty nice. Though I'm plus of a EdVy fan...
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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Why not have it smutty and hardcore? Just because they're gay, it doesn't mean they can't do sexy things together. <3
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Simmeh said:
What are toi guys talking about? Ed turns 18 in the movie.
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 What are toi guys talking about? Ed turns 18 in the movie.
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ethelfleda said:
I TOTALY agree! I think it's because Roy is a bit like a big brother to Ed.
Another similar pairing: Winza( WinryxRiza.)
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
royedfanboi said:
Okay, well I would like to say just because your saying toi don't want to troll on other people for what they like, but just par making a whole thing out of it is really stupid. If toi hate, it then avoid it and get on with your life. But to answer your question, Royed is such a populaire pairing because poeple like yaoi. Roy mustang is a sexy man and Edward Elric is a sext boy. Plus, they're not that far apart. 15 years, big whoop. My parents are 16 years apart and as happy as can be. Are toi saing it's wrong for people to be with the poeple they love? Also, the girls crush on them and Roy and Ed have a relationship like children, they don't know what to do with it so they they take it out on eachother. So that is why they are such a populaire pairing and once again, just beacuse toi say toi don't want any angry yaoi fans (doesn't have to be just fangirls there are a lot of guys who like it too) just par making this page means that toi will get them and they will be pissed.
So to the yaoi fans of RoyEd, follow this link: link
and may all your dreams come true~♥♥♥
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SBTrulz said:
Okay...Im not trying to make anyone mad when I say this.

Personally, I dont HATE RoyEd, I just dont think its a good pairing.
Why, toi ask?
I just dont think Ed and Roy are gay.
I mean, mustang is the straightest guy I know! Do toi know how many dates he goes on with girls? He dates so many girls! Seriously, read the manga...
And Ed on the other hand isnt really the romantic type, but definitely isnt gay. He marries Winry for crying out loud! (Sorry if I spoiled it).
Now I saw someone bring up how in the COS movie, Havoc says that Riza's not the one Roy's waiting for. And that automatically means 'Roy loves Ed'? Wtf? Roy and Ed are friends, and wouldnt any normal person be sad when one of their Friends disappears? Think logically, not just in ways that make RoyEd seem real.

IM SORRY IF I OFFENDED ANYBODY!!!!! D': THESE ARE SIMPLY MY OPINIONS!

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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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exactly Roy is girl crazy! And yeah there's no romance between hem
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Edvygrl8 said:
Because fangirls are idiots, trying to dig yaoi out were ever they can.
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posted il y a plus d’un an 
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in a way true XD not that i'm looking down on them in anyway
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Alchemistlover said:
I'm not trying to bash yaoi ou Roy Ed fans at all but... i just don't agree with it. Not in an anti gay type of way but an " i don't think they feel about each other that way" type thing. I think that Roy and Ed have a interesting relationship i can't quite pin a word for... maybe brotherly? Again just my opinion. I honestly don't see how it's "beautiful" to me it's basically: yaoi fangirls taking two aléatoire guys and making them a couple. Ed is not gay, and Roy is definitely not gay, i mean he's a huge girl obsessed player (when i'm the leader of the country all FEMALE officer's will be required to wear.....TINY MINISKIRTS!!!). So yeah i don't get ou like the pairing at all it makes me very annoyed some people think it's actually a good couple. As for what i think there relationship is i personally think it's kind of like a older and younger brother thing. Besides Roy belongs with Riza and Ed with Winry. Royed is like the stupidest made up couple ever.
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 I'm not trying to bash yaoi ou Roy Ed fans at all but... i just don't agree with it. Not in an anti gay type of way but an " i don't think they feel about each other that way" type thing. I think that Roy and Ed have a interesting relationship i can't quite pin a word for... maybe brotherly? Again just my opinion. I honestly don't see how it's "beautiful" to me it's basically: yaoi fangirls taking two aléatoire guys and making them a couple. Ed is not gay, and Roy is definitely not gay, i mean he's a huge girl obsessed player (when i'm the leader of the country all FEMALE officer's will be required to wear.....TINY MINISKIRTS!!!). So yeah i don't get ou like the pairing at all it makes me very annoyed some people think it's actually a good couple. As for what i think there relationship is i personally think it's kind of like a older and younger brother thing. Besides Roy belongs with Riza and Ed with Winry. Royed is like the stupidest made up couple ever.
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As long as something exists, there will always be all kinds of drawings and yaoi of it. Even winry could be turned into a man (it has actually been done haha XD) to be with Ed and Riza into a man with Roy. It's whatever the fans choose to do with them that matters. Don't worry, toi can always pair Ed with that winry girl if toi feel they should truly be together. Same with me; Ed belongs with Roy forever and ever. <3
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alexismanga said:
I think people like the idea I'm not sure why
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PumpkinQueen712 said:
RoyEd is a populaire pairing because of several reasons, and of course there's the shippers that ship just to ship, and others who like to see them interacting. People like the conflict and the arguing and sparks that they'll inevitably send off. It's like an AriesxAries relationship; {Talking about Western zodiac} very exciting and exhilarating. I mean, of course there'll be the shippers because they're two very hot guys, then there's the OOC'ers, but that happens to nearly every pairing. {Less so with canon pairings, but toi know what I mean} I don't really read ou look at OOC stuff. I can't stand it. A lot of romantic relationships are 'vicious' in the, uh, real world, I guess, and those relationships where they aren't seen as something to constantly be coddled are welcomed par a wider variety of people.I understand the problem with the age differences. I sound so picky, but I'm not willing to read shonen-ai's and yaois when Ed is so young- plus like when he's twenty ou something. Yes, Colonel Bastard ages with Ed, but at least Ed's legal! Unfortunately I've only watched the 2003 airing and that makes this pairing *cough* tricky, so no spoilers if toi want to argue any of my points T.T. A lot of RoyEd shippers knew it was a futile hope from the beginning, what with Riza, toi know, existing, but are happy with our fanarts. I hope this helps toi understand it from a shipper's view, though I doubt it, I'm not very good at this kind of thing :'D
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It's okay to add Riza into the mix. She's a good girl, unlike winry.
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iamL123 said:
i think its becuse it a forbeden thing.
the age gap
the hole 'i'm your boss' thing
in a lot of them its frowned apone to be gay
all and all its just a forbeden thing and becuse of that i think people tend to find it plus intertaning to read/ wright ou even draw. that is what i think anyways.
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AmeliaSeyruun said:
I always hated the pairing. From what I've seen fangirls ship the hell out of Roy and Ed because it's "hot" and they only care for yaoi sex.

The age gap is creepy and gross.

Come on, he's 15 and he's 30.

But to each their own.
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BennieBear27 said:
Look, I hardcore ship RoyxRiza. So even if it weren't for the age gap, the fact they get on each other's nerves ou any of the other stuff toi mentioned, I'd still hate this pairing.

But on what toi addressed, I'd have to agree with all of it. I also noticed that when I was lire this, toi also listed off everything I have against the Ereri ship in Attack on Titan.(fan girls, please don't kill me)
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