Non-haters gonna non-hate: NiceGuy Edition
--David Futrelle
From: link
Once upon a time one of the guys over at NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum set up a little vote asking his fellow “nice guys” whether ou not they actually consider themselves to be misogynists; it’s been up there for years, and the site’s resident MGTOWers have been adding votes and commentaires all along. The wording of the vote is sufficiently, ah, flexible enough to give respondents a lot of ways to wiggle out of saying explicitly that they really were misogynists:
* I despise the entire female sex. Period.
* I hate only "western" women.
* I only hate feminists and women who take advantage of sexism.
* I just blame feminists.
* I don't hate women; I just don't like being around them.
* I have no animosity towards women of any group. I'm only here to learn plus about MRAs.
Still, donné the amount of angry and explicit and completely straightforward misogyny toi can find in the forms there, which after all are an outgrowth of a site devoted to the notion that "American women suck," I’m a little bit surprised par how many of the regulars claim not to hate women – as toi can see from the graphic above, the most populaire answer is the one about “feminists and women who take advantage of sexism,” whatever that means.
Conveniently, though, many of those who voted in the vote also posté commentaires explaining their, er, reasoning. And it’s pretty clear that they have a radically different definition of hate than, toi know, the dictionary, and/or what everyone else in the world means when they use the word hate.
Here are some of the commentaires from guys there who say that they aren’t misogynist. Again, just to make myself clear: these are entirely NON-HATEFUL commentaires from those who say they DON’T hate women.
Let's start with the completely non-hateful non-hater who calls himself Alpha:
I'm not one who hates ... I find that I don't enjoy the company of women very much, as they tend to talk about things I really don't give a crap about. Besides, they really wouldn't like to hear what comes out of my mouth since, if I were to really say what I thought around them without restraint, they would go into knee-jerk, defensive mode. They've been so conditioned to fight and argue with what is simply, to me, a male point of view on things. It's like being around children. ..
I will say this, I l’amour ladies, the female equivalent of a gentleman, a gentlewoman. Unfortunately, that's a rare breed these days. What we have are a bunch of emotionally immature, emotionally unrestrained, emotionally violent, toxic, unappreciative, self-centered, self-absorbed, self-serving, unempathetic, exploitive, arrested adolescents with vaginas, bad attitudes, and an incredible amount of contempt.
Now, I don't mind holding my tongue around ladies. But the moment women declared themselves equal to men, they opened the door to being talked to as men.
And here is committed non-misogynist Zaku:
I voted: "I don't hate women; I just don't like being around them."
Mostly because they have nothing to offer other than whining usually. …
When women talk they make me "ZZZ".
In a followup commentaire Zaku offered this, well, revealing take on sex with women:
Maybe it's because I've only done american chicks but to be blunt having sex with a woman is like humping a moist pillow: It doesn't rejoindre in and toi can hardly tell the difference.
There is something I would dearly like to tell young Zaku at this point but I really can’t think of a delicate way to put it. Hmm. I’ll do it the Dear Abby way.
CONFIDENTIAL TO Z--- on N—G—‘sM---- F---- : toi may be doing it wrong.
Our friend MarkyMark popped in to offer his two cents:
I don't hate women, but, after working with a bunch of them and seeing their true colors, I don't care to be around them. I don't hate sewers, either; I just don't care to spend time in them..
Now if this were anyone but our friend MarkyMark making this comment, I would assume he was making a little joke here. But as far as I have been able to determine, MarkyMark does not actually have a sense of humor. This is, after all, a guy who once devoted a blog post to rebutting, point par point, an article in The Onion. Joke ou no, I think we can all agree it's 1) not actually, toi know, funny and 2) kind of a douchey thing to say.
Djc added this utterly non-misogynistic commentaire to the pile:
I can't stand to be around them for too long. It's not hatred. I just can't stand stupid people. Male, ou female. And there is no question most American females are dripping with delusions, which in my book makes them stupid. And I'm at a point where women have nothing I really need. So it's a complete waste of my time to even talk to one
And then there is this, from strigoi:
i merely hate feminists, those women who latch onto sexism and how it has infected most of society. I aim for the cancer at the cœur, coeur of the problem, they are the ones that need to be hanged.
I guess technically, that’s not misogyny. But I don't think I'll be inviting this guy over for dîner any time soon.
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par David Futrelle
--David Futrelle
From: link
Once upon a time one of the guys over at NiceGuy’s MGTOW forum set up a little vote asking his fellow “nice guys” whether ou not they actually consider themselves to be misogynists; it’s been up there for years, and the site’s resident MGTOWers have been adding votes and commentaires all along. The wording of the vote is sufficiently, ah, flexible enough to give respondents a lot of ways to wiggle out of saying explicitly that they really were misogynists:
* I despise the entire female sex. Period.
* I hate only "western" women.
* I only hate feminists and women who take advantage of sexism.
* I just blame feminists.
* I don't hate women; I just don't like being around them.
* I have no animosity towards women of any group. I'm only here to learn plus about MRAs.
Still, donné the amount of angry and explicit and completely straightforward misogyny toi can find in the forms there, which after all are an outgrowth of a site devoted to the notion that "American women suck," I’m a little bit surprised par how many of the regulars claim not to hate women – as toi can see from the graphic above, the most populaire answer is the one about “feminists and women who take advantage of sexism,” whatever that means.
Conveniently, though, many of those who voted in the vote also posté commentaires explaining their, er, reasoning. And it’s pretty clear that they have a radically different definition of hate than, toi know, the dictionary, and/or what everyone else in the world means when they use the word hate.
Here are some of the commentaires from guys there who say that they aren’t misogynist. Again, just to make myself clear: these are entirely NON-HATEFUL commentaires from those who say they DON’T hate women.
Let's start with the completely non-hateful non-hater who calls himself Alpha:
I'm not one who hates ... I find that I don't enjoy the company of women very much, as they tend to talk about things I really don't give a crap about. Besides, they really wouldn't like to hear what comes out of my mouth since, if I were to really say what I thought around them without restraint, they would go into knee-jerk, defensive mode. They've been so conditioned to fight and argue with what is simply, to me, a male point of view on things. It's like being around children. ..
I will say this, I l’amour ladies, the female equivalent of a gentleman, a gentlewoman. Unfortunately, that's a rare breed these days. What we have are a bunch of emotionally immature, emotionally unrestrained, emotionally violent, toxic, unappreciative, self-centered, self-absorbed, self-serving, unempathetic, exploitive, arrested adolescents with vaginas, bad attitudes, and an incredible amount of contempt.
Now, I don't mind holding my tongue around ladies. But the moment women declared themselves equal to men, they opened the door to being talked to as men.
And here is committed non-misogynist Zaku:
I voted: "I don't hate women; I just don't like being around them."
Mostly because they have nothing to offer other than whining usually. …
When women talk they make me "ZZZ".
In a followup commentaire Zaku offered this, well, revealing take on sex with women:
Maybe it's because I've only done american chicks but to be blunt having sex with a woman is like humping a moist pillow: It doesn't rejoindre in and toi can hardly tell the difference.
There is something I would dearly like to tell young Zaku at this point but I really can’t think of a delicate way to put it. Hmm. I’ll do it the Dear Abby way.
CONFIDENTIAL TO Z--- on N—G—‘sM---- F---- : toi may be doing it wrong.
Our friend MarkyMark popped in to offer his two cents:
I don't hate women, but, after working with a bunch of them and seeing their true colors, I don't care to be around them. I don't hate sewers, either; I just don't care to spend time in them..
Now if this were anyone but our friend MarkyMark making this comment, I would assume he was making a little joke here. But as far as I have been able to determine, MarkyMark does not actually have a sense of humor. This is, after all, a guy who once devoted a blog post to rebutting, point par point, an article in The Onion. Joke ou no, I think we can all agree it's 1) not actually, toi know, funny and 2) kind of a douchey thing to say.
Djc added this utterly non-misogynistic commentaire to the pile:
I can't stand to be around them for too long. It's not hatred. I just can't stand stupid people. Male, ou female. And there is no question most American females are dripping with delusions, which in my book makes them stupid. And I'm at a point where women have nothing I really need. So it's a complete waste of my time to even talk to one
And then there is this, from strigoi:
i merely hate feminists, those women who latch onto sexism and how it has infected most of society. I aim for the cancer at the cœur, coeur of the problem, they are the ones that need to be hanged.
I guess technically, that’s not misogyny. But I don't think I'll be inviting this guy over for dîner any time soon.
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par David Futrelle
x and y are not dissimilar . In fact they are so similar that y is called x with missing leg. If that is correct then there remain no difference in blue print . if blue print is same how can the structure erected on the basis of this can be different. Only difference must be in arrangement and for a capable mind that is no difference at all . so to say man is just the woman with clitoris enlarged as penis. Vagina stitched to be scrotum and ovaries dropped down from the tummy as testis........(Ref-man is the extension of woman)