To like ou not to like? That is the question.
Earlier tonight, the ratings system of fanpop experienced a massive overhaul. No longer can toi rate content on a scale of one to five (ala YouTube), but if toi like content, toi can "like" it (ala Facebook), ou "be a fan" of it.
Dave gave a very good, logical explanation for the change to help assuage some fears and answer some questions:
"Hi Guys,
Thanks for making this pick. There are a lot of reasons we wanted to create a new system for deciding whether fans like something ou not. We found that most people were rating either 4 ou 5 stars so we thought if toi liked it enough, toi could just say so. But we found a lot of people also going around abusing the system par voting things negatively just to be malicious ou hurt someone else. fanpop is all about being positive and the new system let's people know toi enjoyed their content and not just try to hurt people's feelings. No trophies were removed, the rating trophy now just counts the number of things you've a dit toi are a fan of. As with any major change on the site, we put a lot of time and thought into it to make sure it will make fanpop a better place. We know that people don't like change, but hopefully you'll agree that this is a better system for everyone!
Dave" [link]
Now before we all freak out (like I already did when I first saw the change), let's address these points. Dave is absolutely right. There are trolls enough on fanpop that the diligent user link created the link, as well as the link for premium content that's ignored par other users.
Despite warnings in the VRSOF spot about posting liens for the purpose of "medal-whoring" and despite posté and repeated rules on what kind of content should be posted, and suggestions as to what warrants a five-star rating, most of the content in the VRSOF is one ou plus of the following: A) Recently posté (within the last 24 hours) B) Poorly key-worded/credited C) Repeated content. Despite these things, people still tend to rate the content upon request, and generally (without giving it much thought) five étoile, star the content.
So it's clear that the majority of Fanpoppers don't think very hard about how they rate. Either they're trolls and one-star content just to be mean, ou they rate an image with no credit ou any key words five stars just to be nice. In that sense, this "like" solution (as I call it) seems to be a very sensible way to go.
But then, there are the people like me. I recently described myself as an "anal retentive credit-crazy mot-clé queen." And it's true. A student of DrDevience, uncredited and poorly keyworded images became a particular pet peeve of mine, especially as I try really hard to give accurate credit and relevant mots-clés when I post content. images especially would get a variety of ratings from one-star (with an explanation, always) to five stars (with praise, sometimes).
In addition to that, I tend to rate articles based on their length, relevance to the spot topic, what they say, and how its said. Here are two articles I would rate dramatically differently, even if I "liked" the content:
"mY oPiNiOn"
"Dogz r pretty cool. i used 2 have a dog. but ppl say dat chiens r glacière tanière, den cats. mabeh deir rite, but i dunno. but personly, i like catz cuz deir fuzzy and cute. CATZ 4 EVA! DA END!"
Vs
"Cats ou Dogs?"
"First of all, let's just say that chiens are pretty awesome. I had a dog growing up and I loved him to pieces. But some would argue that chiens are make better pets than cats. It's a matter of opinion, but I think they're wrong. Here's why... etc."
Now, toi may LIKE ou fan the article because it talks about chats and chiens (always a fun debate), but which one would toi rate higher?
This presents a problem with the new ratings system. Maybe this problem is just one that fans like me have, but I just wanted to step up and represent that population, however small it may be! (I forget - is fanpop a democracy ou a dictatorship? Ah well, have them throw me in the fanpop dungeon, I'm speaking my piece!)
I'm gonna miss deciding the quality of the content I'm rating. It's true, if a video has accurate keywords, I'll tend to five-star it. Same goes for most liens (although I do like relevant titles and descriptions with my links, so I know what I'm clicking). But content like images and articles, I'm very picky about. And I'll miss expressing that opinion via rating. True, I can still commentaire and preach proper key-wording, but it won't be the same. Also, ratings tend to reflect when content is particularly bad - like a dangerous link, ou a poorly written article. When I see 2.5s and 3s as the average rating, I know there's something about that content that's off, ou at least controversial, and it tends to catch my interest. How will I pick out that kind of content now?
Back when I was freaking out about the change, I was talking to link and I said: "I wouldn't rate my friends' Facebook statuses on a scale of one to five! And I wouldn't like content on Fanpop." (Clarifying that I meant clicking the "be a fan of" button, not that I didn't appreciate fanpop content, of course).
So while I understand where the fanpop Four are coming from with this, and it is a very positive rating system, I'm gonna have to be the killjoy that says, "No, but, wait!" Because it does make me sad to lose the old rating system. And I don't feel like a hero anymore when I find and rapporter trolled content to the ATSOF.
An era in fanpop has ended, my friends.
(... Unless the F4 decide to change it back...?)
Also, a liste of questions I bombarded DarkSarcasm with and decided to include. In response to Dave's explanation:
1) Does a one/two-star rating on old content now count as a "being a fan"?
2) If a user one-starred content in the past, is that in their ratings trophy count?
3) If we accidentally fan something, is there any way we can 'un-fan' it? (asks link)
4) The Great Facebook Question: Will there ever be a "dislike" (or "Not a fan") button?
5) The "If-I-Told-You-I'd-Have-To-Kill-You" Question: Do ratings (or "being fans") still count towards getting a medal and if so, has the weight on ratings changed at all in that respect?
Earlier tonight, the ratings system of fanpop experienced a massive overhaul. No longer can toi rate content on a scale of one to five (ala YouTube), but if toi like content, toi can "like" it (ala Facebook), ou "be a fan" of it.
Dave gave a very good, logical explanation for the change to help assuage some fears and answer some questions:
"Hi Guys,
Thanks for making this pick. There are a lot of reasons we wanted to create a new system for deciding whether fans like something ou not. We found that most people were rating either 4 ou 5 stars so we thought if toi liked it enough, toi could just say so. But we found a lot of people also going around abusing the system par voting things negatively just to be malicious ou hurt someone else. fanpop is all about being positive and the new system let's people know toi enjoyed their content and not just try to hurt people's feelings. No trophies were removed, the rating trophy now just counts the number of things you've a dit toi are a fan of. As with any major change on the site, we put a lot of time and thought into it to make sure it will make fanpop a better place. We know that people don't like change, but hopefully you'll agree that this is a better system for everyone!
Dave" [link]
Now before we all freak out (like I already did when I first saw the change), let's address these points. Dave is absolutely right. There are trolls enough on fanpop that the diligent user link created the link, as well as the link for premium content that's ignored par other users.
Despite warnings in the VRSOF spot about posting liens for the purpose of "medal-whoring" and despite posté and repeated rules on what kind of content should be posted, and suggestions as to what warrants a five-star rating, most of the content in the VRSOF is one ou plus of the following: A) Recently posté (within the last 24 hours) B) Poorly key-worded/credited C) Repeated content. Despite these things, people still tend to rate the content upon request, and generally (without giving it much thought) five étoile, star the content.
So it's clear that the majority of Fanpoppers don't think very hard about how they rate. Either they're trolls and one-star content just to be mean, ou they rate an image with no credit ou any key words five stars just to be nice. In that sense, this "like" solution (as I call it) seems to be a very sensible way to go.
But then, there are the people like me. I recently described myself as an "anal retentive credit-crazy mot-clé queen." And it's true. A student of DrDevience, uncredited and poorly keyworded images became a particular pet peeve of mine, especially as I try really hard to give accurate credit and relevant mots-clés when I post content. images especially would get a variety of ratings from one-star (with an explanation, always) to five stars (with praise, sometimes).
In addition to that, I tend to rate articles based on their length, relevance to the spot topic, what they say, and how its said. Here are two articles I would rate dramatically differently, even if I "liked" the content:
"mY oPiNiOn"
"Dogz r pretty cool. i used 2 have a dog. but ppl say dat chiens r glacière tanière, den cats. mabeh deir rite, but i dunno. but personly, i like catz cuz deir fuzzy and cute. CATZ 4 EVA! DA END!"
Vs
"Cats ou Dogs?"
"First of all, let's just say that chiens are pretty awesome. I had a dog growing up and I loved him to pieces. But some would argue that chiens are make better pets than cats. It's a matter of opinion, but I think they're wrong. Here's why... etc."
Now, toi may LIKE ou fan the article because it talks about chats and chiens (always a fun debate), but which one would toi rate higher?
This presents a problem with the new ratings system. Maybe this problem is just one that fans like me have, but I just wanted to step up and represent that population, however small it may be! (I forget - is fanpop a democracy ou a dictatorship? Ah well, have them throw me in the fanpop dungeon, I'm speaking my piece!)
I'm gonna miss deciding the quality of the content I'm rating. It's true, if a video has accurate keywords, I'll tend to five-star it. Same goes for most liens (although I do like relevant titles and descriptions with my links, so I know what I'm clicking). But content like images and articles, I'm very picky about. And I'll miss expressing that opinion via rating. True, I can still commentaire and preach proper key-wording, but it won't be the same. Also, ratings tend to reflect when content is particularly bad - like a dangerous link, ou a poorly written article. When I see 2.5s and 3s as the average rating, I know there's something about that content that's off, ou at least controversial, and it tends to catch my interest. How will I pick out that kind of content now?
Back when I was freaking out about the change, I was talking to link and I said: "I wouldn't rate my friends' Facebook statuses on a scale of one to five! And I wouldn't like content on Fanpop." (Clarifying that I meant clicking the "be a fan of" button, not that I didn't appreciate fanpop content, of course).
So while I understand where the fanpop Four are coming from with this, and it is a very positive rating system, I'm gonna have to be the killjoy that says, "No, but, wait!" Because it does make me sad to lose the old rating system. And I don't feel like a hero anymore when I find and rapporter trolled content to the ATSOF.
An era in fanpop has ended, my friends.
(... Unless the F4 decide to change it back...?)
Also, a liste of questions I bombarded DarkSarcasm with and decided to include. In response to Dave's explanation:
1) Does a one/two-star rating on old content now count as a "being a fan"?
2) If a user one-starred content in the past, is that in their ratings trophy count?
3) If we accidentally fan something, is there any way we can 'un-fan' it? (asks link)
4) The Great Facebook Question: Will there ever be a "dislike" (or "Not a fan") button?
5) The "If-I-Told-You-I'd-Have-To-Kill-You" Question: Do ratings (or "being fans") still count towards getting a medal and if so, has the weight on ratings changed at all in that respect?
I am not here to lecture toi yet again on photo crediting. I am done with that.
I am way past the lecturing and into downright grrrrrr-ville.
toi already know full well that taking something toi did not create and not giving full credit to the owner is theft. Your excuses mostly boil down to laziness at this point.
So.
This is my public notice that any and all images with no credit to the original owner of the image will be rated harshly no matter how great the picture is... ou how much I normally like you.
Additionally, if there is a blatant Copyright notice right there on the damn picture and toi still failed to credit the owner, I'm reporting it to fanpop -and- notifying the owner of the image that toi a volé, étole it.
Enough is enough.
I am way past the lecturing and into downright grrrrrr-ville.
toi already know full well that taking something toi did not create and not giving full credit to the owner is theft. Your excuses mostly boil down to laziness at this point.
So.
This is my public notice that any and all images with no credit to the original owner of the image will be rated harshly no matter how great the picture is... ou how much I normally like you.
Additionally, if there is a blatant Copyright notice right there on the damn picture and toi still failed to credit the owner, I'm reporting it to fanpop -and- notifying the owner of the image that toi a volé, étole it.
Enough is enough.
here are some motto's that i have either made ou have gotten from things i've seen!
Anyone who's never made a mistake has never tried anything new! - Albert.A. Einstein
Always be yourself, unless toi can be a unicorn. Then always be a unicorn!
Always be you, because eevryone else is taken - Anonymous
ill post plus when i find more!!!
these are for eeryone to use so feel free to put them up, but plz put my nom d’utilisateur with them cuz i wanna get some credit for it plz!
im need to make this longer so heres some aléatoire stufff
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Anyone who's never made a mistake has never tried anything new! - Albert.A. Einstein
Always be yourself, unless toi can be a unicorn. Then always be a unicorn!
Always be you, because eevryone else is taken - Anonymous
ill post plus when i find more!!!
these are for eeryone to use so feel free to put them up, but plz put my nom d’utilisateur with them cuz i wanna get some credit for it plz!
im need to make this longer so heres some aléatoire stufff
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A few minutes il y a I thought of a partial answer to the récent outbreak of internet trolls we've had over the last few moths.
Ladies and Gentlepoppers, I introduce to you:
The ATSOF (The Anti Troll Squad Of Fanpop)
This will be a society of fanpoppers who work together to justly rate any content which has (without reason) been rated low.
My plan is to make an ATSOF Spot; if a spot ou particular piece of content has been rated low toi can alert the ATSOF spot about this and some of the "fans" of the spot will head over to the content and rate the content fairly, therefore boosting the rating.
Please tell me what toi think; I don't want to create a Ghost-Spot-to-be
Ladies and Gentlepoppers, I introduce to you:
The ATSOF (The Anti Troll Squad Of Fanpop)
This will be a society of fanpoppers who work together to justly rate any content which has (without reason) been rated low.
My plan is to make an ATSOF Spot; if a spot ou particular piece of content has been rated low toi can alert the ATSOF spot about this and some of the "fans" of the spot will head over to the content and rate the content fairly, therefore boosting the rating.
Please tell me what toi think; I don't want to create a Ghost-Spot-to-be
If we make a new spot we want to make it popular. Recently I made a new spot so when I wanted to send a message to all my Friends about it I got tired of typing individual messages so I quit. So we should be able to send one message to all our Friends at the same time if necessary. Also there should be an area that says "new spots" on the accueil page so that people can see what has been recently created and if they want to rejoindre the particular spot. It would really make the people who created the spots happy because they could get some good publicity.
par the way I made a new spot about Kal Penn, the indian guy from the van wilder movies, Harold and Kumar go to white castle, and Epic Movie.
So if u like those films check it out. all toi have to do is type "Kal Penn" in the chercher engine" (obviously, I know)
Also this soapbox was ment for the fanpop spot
par the way I made a new spot about Kal Penn, the indian guy from the van wilder movies, Harold and Kumar go to white castle, and Epic Movie.
So if u like those films check it out. all toi have to do is type "Kal Penn" in the chercher engine" (obviously, I know)
Also this soapbox was ment for the fanpop spot
Hello to everyone,
my name is Inès, and I'm French.
As a lot of toi know, Paris has been attacked yesterday par terrorists. The concert hall "Le Bataclan" has been attacked during a concert.
128 dead and plus than 200 wounded are for now counted. This is a tragedy.
I was born and I've lived in Paris, and I often go there and to the Bataclan to attend concerts, and seeing this, is just awful. The whole country is shocked and desperate.
3 national days of mourning have been declared.
I invite toi to leave a few words, thoughts for the victims of this disaster.
Thank toi <3
my name is Inès, and I'm French.
As a lot of toi know, Paris has been attacked yesterday par terrorists. The concert hall "Le Bataclan" has been attacked during a concert.
128 dead and plus than 200 wounded are for now counted. This is a tragedy.
I was born and I've lived in Paris, and I often go there and to the Bataclan to attend concerts, and seeing this, is just awful. The whole country is shocked and desperate.
3 national days of mourning have been declared.
I invite toi to leave a few words, thoughts for the victims of this disaster.
Thank toi <3