Has anyone else noticed SM casual use of abuse in these novels?

Thats not my point. And yea I kind of know. Lived threw it. So yea it happens all the time. My point in asking is simply does she use it TO casualy? She has swarms of teenage girls thinkng that that kind of relationship is cool because Bella and Edward. I mean seriously

Well, it's not exactly Meyer's fault if those girls choose to jump to that conclusion. See this vid for more: link

It may be off-topic, but it has the same point. Just replace Rihanna with Twilight, and replace Parent's télévision Council with Antis who believe what toi stated.

Not her fault, but still it bugs me.

I never a dit she did

oh I don't know... i didn't get the feeling that the abuse was actually a theme.. sometimes it felt merely like it was just something used to advance the plot whenever Meyer writes herself into a corner, other times it didn't make sense at all... for one thing, did the so-called abusers got their comeuppance in the end? for example, when Jacob kissed Bella forcibly, didn't he even boasted to Charlie what he did and didn't Charlie replied, "good for you." tell me where the justice is in that. and what about Emily? It was all about Sam's feelings and Sam's guilt. why was Emily's side never explored? after all, she took the abuse. why is everybody sorry for Sam? and what about when Edward ou Jacob blames Bella whenever they act like jerks towards her? they tell her it's her fault for being irrisistable. isn't that some kind of an abuse too? and was there justice in how Meyer handled it? just asking...

Forgiveness is also a theme. Everyone doesn't have to be a chienne to people who bother them. Jacob wasn't looking for Charlie's approval, he was looking for Bella's, and she didn't approve. Jacob didn't tell Charlie he forced her. If Charlie knew Jacob sexually harassed his daughter, he probably wouldn't have been happy. Sam's attack was an accident and deserving of forgiveness. Emily loved him and it's easy to forgive someone toi love. Neither of them ever blamed Bella. toi conveniently forgot to mention Rosalie's attacker. They died as a punishment

therein, I guess, lies the thing that bothers me. they forgive and forget so easily. there's no justice for the characters. and the focus is on the abusers, the sympathy of the writer appears to be on the abusers' side with nothing on the abused's. as for Rosalie's rape, my problem with it was that it was used so lightly, like an afterthought to her character, because i didn't get the feeling that it affected her..

Rosalie's didnt really effect her, and thats sort of what brought this to my attention. She uses it to lightly. No one can live through that and not change. As for Bella's free will, I see the whole thing as sort of an anti-femmanist thing.

Exactly! Thats what Im saying.

Sam never attacked Emily, she was just standing too close to him when he changed into a werewolf, it was a complete accident

I never a dit anything about a theme. and I didnt say it was a bad thing either, I was only asking for opinions on this particular theme